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	<title>Comments on: CC, Carlos, Catwoman, and Caucasians</title>
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	<description>The takeover.  The break's over.</description>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2004/07/26/cc-carlos-catwoman-and-caucasians/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To respond to Phil's comments, yes I agree that Carlos is enjoying certain rights and privileges that he may not find elsewhere, and is doing so while earning a living off of the same people he has offended.  That being said, it is still his right.  I agree that he should show the US flag more resepect; the flag represents ideals that are above the ideals of any person or administration.  Thus, if you disagree with George Bush, so be it, but the flag still represents the same things it always has.  So, Phil, I would suggest that if Carlos Delagdo can make gestures and political statements that we both find offensive or distasteful (which I do), and still earn that paycheck, then it is a perfect example of what makes that flag so special, and the ideals that it represents so special.  If only we all could enjoy such a luxury that this is all we have to bitch about.

In short, yeah he's a spoiled brat, but at least he didn't steal from you or get drunk and drive his car into a crowded crosswalk in front of an elementary school.  Lighten up, and get a grip.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To respond to Phil&#8217;s comments, yes I agree that Carlos is enjoying certain rights and privileges that he may not find elsewhere, and is doing so while earning a living off of the same people he has offended.  That being said, it is still his right.  I agree that he should show the US flag more resepect; the flag represents ideals that are above the ideals of any person or administration.  Thus, if you disagree with George Bush, so be it, but the flag still represents the same things it always has.  So, Phil, I would suggest that if Carlos Delagdo can make gestures and political statements that we both find offensive or distasteful (which I do), and still earn that paycheck, then it is a perfect example of what makes that flag so special, and the ideals that it represents so special.  If only we all could enjoy such a luxury that this is all we have to bitch about.</p>
<p>In short, yeah he&#8217;s a spoiled brat, but at least he didn&#8217;t steal from you or get drunk and drive his car into a crowded crosswalk in front of an elementary school.  Lighten up, and get a grip.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2004/07/26/cc-carlos-catwoman-and-caucasians/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm new here, so maybe I should keep my opinions to myself, but I think Killacal made a great point about being able to not stand.  I'm an American and currently living in a foreign country, and if I'm at sporting events or what not, I do in fact stand and respect the anthem of the nation.  Not because I agree with its foreign or domestic policy, but because I respect that I'm in that country.  


But maybe that's just my slanted reality.

And here's where I have a problem with Delgado.  Hey Delgado, you want to make a political statement about the USA?  Don't cash your checks from the USA earned revenues, or better yet, decide you detest the country so much that you won't step foot inside it until they change their ways.  But to disrespect the flag, while cashing your USA earned checks (even playing for Toronoto, probably 90% of the income of that team is from US licensing deals, televisions, etc) and enjoying all the privileges of that country is the height of hypocrisy.  

Enjoy that you have the right to disagree, but respect the symbol of the nation that gives you that right (at least when you are in its borders).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new here, so maybe I should keep my opinions to myself, but I think Killacal made a great point about being able to not stand.  I&#8217;m an American and currently living in a foreign country, and if I&#8217;m at sporting events or what not, I do in fact stand and respect the anthem of the nation.  Not because I agree with its foreign or domestic policy, but because I respect that I&#8217;m in that country.  </p>
<p>But maybe that&#8217;s just my slanted reality.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s where I have a problem with Delgado.  Hey Delgado, you want to make a political statement about the USA?  Don&#8217;t cash your checks from the USA earned revenues, or better yet, decide you detest the country so much that you won&#8217;t step foot inside it until they change their ways.  But to disrespect the flag, while cashing your USA earned checks (even playing for Toronoto, probably 90% of the income of that team is from US licensing deals, televisions, etc) and enjoying all the privileges of that country is the height of hypocrisy.  </p>
<p>Enjoy that you have the right to disagree, but respect the symbol of the nation that gives you that right (at least when you are in its borders).</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2004/07/26/cc-carlos-catwoman-and-caucasians/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm feelin both sides of this debate. Ultimately, it's up to each of us to decide where we stand on all of these issues. (Although that Catwoman crap is already voted the 34th worst movie in history and it's only been out a week, pretty unanimous. Haven't heard one good thing yet.)

But despite our issues with the good ol' U.S. of A., we must remember this: the U.S. is one of the few countries in this world where you have the OPTION to not stand for a song or repeat the pledge. People throwing cans, trash, etc. at you is more appealing than being thrown in prison (or worse) for expressing your opinion. So let's just be grateful that we face only the ridicule of our peers when we express distaste for America and not persecution/execution at the hands of a ruthless, controlling government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m feelin both sides of this debate. Ultimately, it&#8217;s up to each of us to decide where we stand on all of these issues. (Although that Catwoman crap is already voted the 34th worst movie in history and it&#8217;s only been out a week, pretty unanimous. Haven&#8217;t heard one good thing yet.)</p>
<p>But despite our issues with the good ol&#8217; U.S. of A., we must remember this: the U.S. is one of the few countries in this world where you have the OPTION to not stand for a song or repeat the pledge. People throwing cans, trash, etc. at you is more appealing than being thrown in prison (or worse) for expressing your opinion. So let&#8217;s just be grateful that we face only the ridicule of our peers when we express distaste for America and not persecution/execution at the hands of a ruthless, controlling government.</p>
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		<title>By: Killacal</title>
		<link>http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2004/07/26/cc-carlos-catwoman-and-caucasians/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Killacal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More power to Delgado!  I hope he gets traded to a contender and CONTINUES to not stand or even acknowledge "God Bless America".

As for Moore and his movie, I see it as a bit of counteraction to Fox News and it's "Fair and Balanced" perspective on things.  Moore's work is no more biased than the daily drivel there.  And say what you will about Moore's motives, he's made the movie available for free streaming on the internet.

On Catwoman, I've applied Nancy Reagan's drug policy to movies of that ilk....JUST SAY NO!  It'll take more than Halle Berry in leather to get me to the theater, especially when her stunt double is a man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More power to Delgado!  I hope he gets traded to a contender and CONTINUES to not stand or even acknowledge &#8220;God Bless America&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for Moore and his movie, I see it as a bit of counteraction to Fox News and it&#8217;s &#8220;Fair and Balanced&#8221; perspective on things.  Moore&#8217;s work is no more biased than the daily drivel there.  And say what you will about Moore&#8217;s motives, he&#8217;s made the movie available for free streaming on the internet.</p>
<p>On Catwoman, I&#8217;ve applied Nancy Reagan&#8217;s drug policy to movies of that ilk&#8230;.JUST SAY NO!  It&#8217;ll take more than Halle Berry in leather to get me to the theater, especially when her stunt double is a man!</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2004/07/26/cc-carlos-catwoman-and-caucasians/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not saying that anyone has to agree with the war, the pledge, the anthem, or anything else.  I personally AM pretty much on board with the pledge and the anthem, and even to the war to some degree.  To each their own.

However, all that aside...

Michael Moore?!?!?!  

Let's not forget that this movie had a very formidable PR machine behind it in the form of the Weinsteins at Miramax long before it even was released.  The success of the movie is a success of marketing, not truth and fairness.  After all, when it comes to the box office, we're all Monty Brewster at heart; we're dying to give our money away.  You admitted yourself you watched Soul Plane, see what I mean?
In other words, if we're supposed to take Money Mike at face value, then we have to take Bill O'Reilly at face value too.  And I don't think even the staunchest conservative can say that with a straight face.
I'm cool with it if Carlos Delgado doesn't want to stand for the anthem, or salute the flag, or get the Anthrax vacination, or recreate the Slim Pickens scene from "Dr. Stranglove" over Baghdad.  However, that doesn't mean the people that do salute the flag are an less sensible.  As far as I'm concerned, anyone who doesn't stand for the anthem is no more controversial or unlikable than someone who does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying that anyone has to agree with the war, the pledge, the anthem, or anything else.  I personally AM pretty much on board with the pledge and the anthem, and even to the war to some degree.  To each their own.</p>
<p>However, all that aside&#8230;</p>
<p>Michael Moore?!?!?!  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that this movie had a very formidable PR machine behind it in the form of the Weinsteins at Miramax long before it even was released.  The success of the movie is a success of marketing, not truth and fairness.  After all, when it comes to the box office, we&#8217;re all Monty Brewster at heart; we&#8217;re dying to give our money away.  You admitted yourself you watched Soul Plane, see what I mean?<br />
In other words, if we&#8217;re supposed to take Money Mike at face value, then we have to take Bill O&#8217;Reilly at face value too.  And I don&#8217;t think even the staunchest conservative can say that with a straight face.<br />
I&#8217;m cool with it if Carlos Delgado doesn&#8217;t want to stand for the anthem, or salute the flag, or get the Anthrax vacination, or recreate the Slim Pickens scene from &#8220;Dr. Stranglove&#8221; over Baghdad.  However, that doesn&#8217;t mean the people that do salute the flag are an less sensible.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, anyone who doesn&#8217;t stand for the anthem is no more controversial or unlikable than someone who does.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2004/07/26/cc-carlos-catwoman-and-caucasians/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm so glad I'm not the only person who realizes that standing to honor a flag that flies in the face of everything it was created to stand for or some song that's full of lies is asinine.  And I'm tired of people looking at me cross-eyed for not doing so while I'm staring back at them thinking they should be locked up in some rubber room for worshiping such things.  Although I never see myself becoming famous, I wish I was so I could take the same stand, because the stand that I take (as one who lacks national fame) doesn't matter much apparently.  As a teacher it burned me up this past year to have to stand idle in the hallway while an entire school full of uninformed children were indoctrinated on a daily basis with lies like "...one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."  I'm supposed to be teaching them that the truth is the way to behave in a democratic society, and I'm told by my administration that I'm obligated to instruct them to repeat national lies to instill patriotism in a nation that could care less about them.  What B.S.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad I&#8217;m not the only person who realizes that standing to honor a flag that flies in the face of everything it was created to stand for or some song that&#8217;s full of lies is asinine.  And I&#8217;m tired of people looking at me cross-eyed for not doing so while I&#8217;m staring back at them thinking they should be locked up in some rubber room for worshiping such things.  Although I never see myself becoming famous, I wish I was so I could take the same stand, because the stand that I take (as one who lacks national fame) doesn&#8217;t matter much apparently.  As a teacher it burned me up this past year to have to stand idle in the hallway while an entire school full of uninformed children were indoctrinated on a daily basis with lies like &#8220;&#8230;one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.&#8221;  I&#8217;m supposed to be teaching them that the truth is the way to behave in a democratic society, and I&#8217;m told by my administration that I&#8217;m obligated to instruct them to repeat national lies to instill patriotism in a nation that could care less about them.  What B.S.!</p>
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		<title>By: katrina</title>
		<link>http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2004/07/26/cc-carlos-catwoman-and-caucasians/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>katrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 04:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i read an article last week regarding Delgado and his views on the massacre, i mean "war." there was a quote from a new yorker that said his lack of participation during the 7th inning was not only a slap in the face to him as a new yorker but as an american. i immediately thought...THIS IS WHY THE WORLD HATES US…we tend to feel ourselves entirely too much. ah, chris the best guard sporting purple and gold since pete!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i read an article last week regarding Delgado and his views on the massacre, i mean &#8220;war.&#8221; there was a quote from a new yorker that said his lack of participation during the 7th inning was not only a slap in the face to him as a new yorker but as an american. i immediately thought&#8230;THIS IS WHY THE WORLD HATES US…we tend to feel ourselves entirely too much. ah, chris the best guard sporting purple and gold since pete!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Brodhead</title>
		<link>http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2004/07/26/cc-carlos-catwoman-and-caucasians/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Brodhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 03:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"But while I'm on it, is "Fahrenheit 9/11" becoming Roots for liberal white folks?  White folks have been coming out of that mad, burning with the anger that comes from having abstract atrocity put into a tangible, digestible package. "

That's exactly right, Bo.  Definitely true for me.  I have one quibble with you, though - I don't like to be called White.   It's "Cracker American," thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But while I&#8217;m on it, is &#8220;Fahrenheit 9/11&#8243; becoming Roots for liberal white folks?  White folks have been coming out of that mad, burning with the anger that comes from having abstract atrocity put into a tangible, digestible package. &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly right, Bo.  Definitely true for me.  I have one quibble with you, though - I don&#8217;t like to be called White.   It&#8217;s &#8220;Cracker American,&#8221; thank you very much.</p>
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