Comments on: Freestyling lessons for the Caucasoids in the house… http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/ The takeover. The break's over. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:34:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Fred Batiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-370 Fred Batiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:34:38 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-370 Hmm...some grandiose statements here I see... Hey, like most of my Southern U.S.-native folks (I grew up in south Louisiana)..I was taught certain things like "don't let nobody call you boy when you're grown" and usage of the N-word. Yeah, around the mid-ninties I tried to get some newfound militancy by telling er'body to not call me the N-word, but I kept going back home and remembering my childhood - which featured improper usage and endearing usage of the N-word (you can't blame a guy for his experiences). I remember this one time in high school this white guy almost got mollywhopped and skulldrug for dropping the N-bomb. I was in D.C. for this presitgious H.S. program (and i was one of the few black faces, along with being very outspoken) and I was ironically listening to my Tical tape (Yes, this was 1995, y'all)..and white boy dropped the N-Word...My inner Denmark Vesey was about to come out, but I caught myself (I'm a minority in a setting where like it or not I'm representing my race). I woulda whupped his ass, but i woulda been on the first thing smokin back to Louisiana... In short...I say this...if I'm with my brother, best friends/any African-American male i know really really well ...then the obiligatory "Wassup mah nigga" followed by the black man hug will be in order... I say this..treat the N-word like a condom: learn as much as you can about using it before you use it. You can get burned if you don't use it correctly. Hmm…some grandiose statements here I see…

Hey, like most of my Southern U.S.-native folks (I grew up in south Louisiana)..I was taught certain things like “don’t let nobody call you boy when you’re grown” and usage of the N-word. Yeah, around the mid-ninties I tried to get some newfound militancy by telling er’body to not call me the N-word, but I kept going back home and remembering my childhood - which featured improper usage and endearing usage of the N-word (you can’t blame a guy for his experiences).

I remember this one time in high school this white guy almost got mollywhopped and skulldrug for dropping the N-bomb. I was in D.C. for this presitgious H.S. program (and i was one of the few black faces, along with being very outspoken) and I was ironically listening to my Tical tape (Yes, this was 1995, y’all)..and white boy dropped the N-Word…My inner Denmark Vesey was about to come out, but I caught myself (I’m a minority in a setting where like it or not I’m representing my race). I woulda whupped his ass, but i woulda been on the first thing smokin back to Louisiana…

In short…I say this…if I’m with my brother, best friends/any African-American male i know really really well …then the obiligatory “Wassup mah nigga” followed by the black man hug will be in order…

I say this..treat the N-word like a condom: learn as much as you can about using it before you use it. You can get burned if you don’t use it correctly.

]]> By: Candy Cane http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-369 Candy Cane Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:36:38 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-369 I used to HATE when folks would blame rap music for all societal woes. Now it's a little more understandable why rap is blamed for glorifying the 'N' word, crime, etc., etc. I don't use the word despite growing up hearing it damn near religiously - and my kids won't use it either. My take is that it's a derogatory word no matter who uses it (comedians should get partial credit for glorifying it also). It's definitely a word laced with disrespect and, you can ask my peeps whether I find that word affectionate or not. I used to HATE when folks would blame rap music for all societal woes. Now it’s a little more understandable why rap is blamed for glorifying the ‘N’ word, crime, etc., etc. I don’t use the word despite growing up hearing it damn near religiously - and my kids won’t use it either. My take is that it’s a derogatory word no matter who uses it (comedians should get partial credit for glorifying it also). It’s definitely a word laced with disrespect and, you can ask my peeps whether I find that word affectionate or not.

]]> By: ladyB http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-368 ladyB Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:53:29 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-368 Let me start by saying that, given the situation, I completely understand your actions but I contend it should not matter who calls you a nigga (nigger, etc.). The word is sufficiently derogatory to be perceived as a negative expression regardless of the “color” of the skin of the person saying it. I can only blame rap music for making it “cool” to be a nigga – not for my acceptance and use of the term. Simply put, neither nigger, nor any derivations of it are terms that I want to be called. I refuse to accept that word as a term of endearment. I prefer to demand respect from all people at all times rather than choose who can call me what when and in front of whom. Let me start by saying that, given the situation, I completely understand your actions but I contend it should not matter who calls you a nigga (nigger, etc.). The word is sufficiently derogatory to be perceived as a negative expression regardless of the “color” of the skin of the person saying it. I can only blame rap music for making it “cool” to be a nigga – not for my acceptance and use of the term. Simply put, neither nigger, nor any derivations of it are terms that I want to be called. I refuse to accept that word as a term of endearment. I prefer to demand respect from all people at all times rather than choose who can call me what when and in front of whom.

]]> By: If all teachers were this hot... http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-367 If all teachers were this hot... Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:59:50 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-367 Alright. First, allow me to qualify my statements for all the blog followers. A) I am black. B) I am from Tennessee, a BIG former slave state and current member of the Good Ol' Boy network. C) I graduated from a Spelman where we learn about oppression from all sides (and, yes, that does mean a fair share of man-bashing, but if it makes you feel better, it was mostly white man bashing). I am fully qualified to give and deny the right to say "nigger", and that is a privilege bestowed upon me by ancestry, intelligence, and being totally annoyed by the fact that this conversation even has to be had in 2005.So here it is. Check your hands. If there is little to no difference in the pigmentation of your palms and the other side, please repeat after me: "The N word is the lowest form of disrespect I can pay a Black person. I am forbidden from saying it, even in the company of only white people. Doing so could make me a racist in the eyes of others, and if I look closely enough at why I thought it was ok for me to use that word in the first place, I'll probably discover that I am indeed a racist."Next post: my views for all penis-owners and their use of the word "bitch", especially Houstonian men. Alright. First, allow me to qualify my statements for all the blog followers. A) I am black. B) I am from Tennessee, a BIG former slave state and current member of the Good Ol’ Boy network. C) I graduated from a Spelman where we learn about oppression from all sides (and, yes, that does mean a fair share of man-bashing, but if it makes you feel better, it was mostly white man bashing). I am fully qualified to give and deny the right to say “nigger”, and that is a privilege bestowed upon me by ancestry, intelligence, and being totally annoyed by the fact that this conversation even has to be had in 2005.So here it is. Check your hands. If there is little to no difference in the pigmentation of your palms and the other side, please repeat after me: “The N word is the lowest form of disrespect I can pay a Black person. I am forbidden from saying it, even in the company of only white people. Doing so could make me a racist in the eyes of others, and if I look closely enough at why I thought it was ok for me to use that word in the first place, I’ll probably discover that I am indeed a racist.”Next post: my views for all penis-owners and their use of the word “bitch”, especially Houstonian men.

]]> By: Elizabeth http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-366 Elizabeth Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:51:16 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-366 In case of emergency, blame rap music... This white young guy from Pittsburgh, a member of this fine nation's military, referenced Three 6 Mafia in a normal day's convo and I nearly fell out of my chair. I knew hip hop was big, but I didn't know it was so big. I thought white folk just know (and buy) the pop rap stuff. But young white folk especially are really absorbing our culture big time which includes our usage of the word nigger and all its forms. I don't give a fuck what they think they know from listening the The Game's weak ass or from watching Dave Chappelle. Recognize and beware that some shit shouldn't come out of caucasoid lips especially in the presence of negroid ears. In case of emergency, blame rap music…
This white young guy from Pittsburgh, a member of this fine nation’s military, referenced Three 6 Mafia in a normal day’s convo and I nearly fell out of my chair. I knew hip hop was big, but I didn’t know it was so big. I thought white folk just know (and buy) the pop rap stuff. But young white folk especially are really absorbing our culture big time which includes our usage of the word nigger and all its forms. I don’t give a fuck what they think they know from listening the The Game’s weak ass or from watching Dave Chappelle. Recognize and beware that some shit shouldn’t come out of caucasoid lips especially in the presence of negroid ears.

]]> By: Hasan http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-365 Hasan Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:05:42 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-365 Yo, didn't Chris Rock (in that Spyke netwrok documentary on the etymology of the word 'Nigger') outline this by talking about how white folks just hate that there's a word out there they can't say? Whether it's Quentin Tarantino or the dude trying to get his ghetto pass by hanging out with colored folk, I ain't down. Keep such desires to yourselves and make sure I don't hear the shit... Yo, didn’t Chris Rock (in that Spyke netwrok documentary on the etymology of the word ‘Nigger’) outline this by talking about how white folks just hate that there’s a word out there they can’t say? Whether it’s Quentin Tarantino or the dude trying to get his ghetto pass by hanging out with colored folk, I ain’t down. Keep such desires to yourselves and make sure I don’t hear the shit…

]]> By: Dnunn http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-364 Dnunn Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:41:10 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-364 I'm a Cancer and I love everything and everybody : ) but you have to take a stand on certain issues and this is one of them. Something I learned from and old pimp....don't let shit slide - they get out of pocket once, it will cost you in the end. They may not have any illintention, but if you let something like this slide once, they will do it again. Better to put and end to it now - by whatever means you deem as neccessary (you handled it quite well) - before it happens again and you have to go Nat Turner on that ass. I’m a Cancer and I love everything and everybody : ) but you have to take a stand on certain issues and this is one of them. Something I learned from and old pimp….don’t let shit slide - they get out of pocket once, it will cost you in the end. They may not have any illintention, but if you let something like this slide once, they will do it again.

Better to put and end to it now - by whatever means you deem as neccessary (you handled it quite well) - before it happens again and you have to go Nat Turner on that ass.

]]> By: Kirk http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-363 Kirk Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:27:52 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-363 One comment, from the perspective of a white male who has a few black friends. There's no way in hell I'm using that word. And it sure as hell didn't take a black person pulling me to the side and saying "Ummm, about that shit you were just saying...." to figure that out. One comment, from the perspective of a white male who has a few black friends. There’s no way in hell I’m using that word. And it sure as hell didn’t take a black person pulling me to the side and saying “Ummm, about that shit you were just saying….” to figure that out.

]]> By: C-Dogg http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/2005/02/21/freestyling-lessons-for-the-caucasoids-in-the-house/#comment-362 C-Dogg Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:03:35 +0000 http://www.bomanijones.com/blog/?p=72#comment-362 You make a good point but I don't totally agree. I work around a bunch of white folks that are HUGE Chappelle's Show fans and I have never heard them use "the 'N' Word" when they are quoting his sketches. To be honest I would probably let them slide if they did. I have an "it's not what they say but how they say it" policy. If I detect a hint of hatred then I would be the first one to authorize a verbal and/or physical beat down. Also just reenacting a skit is fine but dropping it into everyday conversation is an entirely different thing. Then it might be a good idea to curse them out or beat them down. Better it come from a forgiving brother like me that will have some restraint than a thug that doesn't give a damn. But that's just my 2 cents You make a good point but I don’t totally agree.

I work around a bunch of white folks that are HUGE Chappelle’s Show fans and I have never heard them use “the ‘N’ Word” when they are quoting his sketches. To be honest I would probably let them slide if they did. I have an “it’s not what they say but how they say it” policy.

If I detect a hint of hatred then I would be the first one to authorize a verbal and/or physical beat down. Also just reenacting a skit is fine but dropping it into everyday conversation is an entirely different thing. Then it might be a good idea to curse them out or beat them down. Better it come from a forgiving brother like me that will have some restraint than a thug that doesn’t give a damn.

But that’s just my 2 cents

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