Baba Goes To Church

Business…here’s a look at the WWE’s pending campaign to compete with Monday Night Football. Thanks to the WMD for sparking this idea.
I mentioned last post that I went to church. Judging from the astonished phone calls and e-mails I got yesterday and this morning, I don’t think I have to remind you of that.
Anyway, I’m sure most of you could surmise why I went–my girlfriend’s a churchgoer. One of the interesting things about my dating history is that I tend to wind up with churchgoers, even though I’m pretty well-known for my aversion to organized religion.
But here’s the way I see it–if church is important to her, then it’s not much for me to try to make it every few Sundays. Plus, preachers ain’t dumb. They know to wrap things up in time for people to make it home for 1pm kickoff. They ain’t trying to mess up the turnout. As Bill Withers once sang, “it dont’ do too much good to be talkin’ when ain’t nobody listenin’.”
The other thing is that my girlfriend felt that my views on church were uninformed. My analyses are very critical on the people who are quick to tell me I’m going to hell because I’ve had a drink or two and focused most of my biblical studies on gettin’ biblical. Basically, I don’t want to be chastised for doing things that don’t hurt anyone else. I think God understands where I’m coming from on those things.
But I went. And I was better for it. It’s funny…it’s a lot easier to appreciate something when you go in with an open mind rather than looking for something for something to pick at and criticize. Who woulda thunk it?
Anyhoo, even a cynic like me can appreciate any place where people come together and look out for each other. When I walked in the door, I was immediately struck by the positive vibe. I’m not big on talking about vibes beyond what kind of music a DJ plays at a club, but it all felt welcoming. Relaxed, even. And I have never felt relaxed in church.
From what I could tell, it was your basic service. No need to detail it.
But I really dug the sermon. I forget what verse he was talking about, but dude really hit home with it. He asked listeners to appreciate the verse’s context (I would have liked him to ask them to embrace the historical context a little more, but I can’t be greedy) and then began to explain it. Basically, he was letting folks know that, no matter how bad things get, God’s always got their back.
It’s a lesson that all of us need to hear, even if not in those terms. At that point, I had a bit of an epiphany about Christianity and me–I am much more like Christians than I realized. That’s why I wind up with churchgoers. The basic ideas of right and wrong that they have are the same as mine. That’s probably because I was raised by a preacher’s son and and deacon’s daughter. What messages like that sermon provides those folks is reaffirmation that, no matter what happens, everything will be okay in the end.
I have no beef with that. Further, I enjoyed hearing that without hearing condemnation of things I consider petty and inconsequential.
I walked out the door feeling better off for going. In the end, you can’t ask for much more.
So my girlfriend–who I will always refer to as such because the world doesn’t need to know much more than that–was right. I had been a bit quick to condemn all of this. I can’t knock anything that’s trying to help people get through daily trials and tribulations, and I surely can’t knock anything that helps get people through bigger things.
I always said that I wished I had religion when Jon died because all I had was an abstract belief that I’d get better. I wish I had a God or savior to look to in trying to cope. Instead, I have the understanding and awareness that nothing is so big that it will conquer me.
As we all know, understanding isn’t always enough.
So I listened to that sermon with the understanding that the preacher and I see the world in the same way. We just explain it through different terms. As time has gone on, I’ve even come to believe that there is a higher power looking out for most of us. I won’t pretend like that belief doesn’t get shaken (usually when I watch the news), but it’s there. Too much random stuff has worked out well for me, dig?
But my realization that I feel the same way as most of the people in that room further frustrated me about my previous dealings with people. I’ve been fortunate enough to find someone with a bit of understanding of where I come from. I told her my views once and she asked me, “so what makes you not a Christian?” ‘Twas a comforting thing to hear after years of ostracism from people who found me trustworthy and fun, but not quite a good enough person to share themselves with.
If going to church makes me feel better about the world by the time I leave, I’ll make a few trips. Not on the verge of converting or anything like that, but I really can see the good in church.
The church? That’s a long post for another day.
But for today’s post, I got another bit of proof that I don’t always know what I’m talking about. Not every Christian is on something good, but they’re not all hypocrites, a generalization I’ve intimated a few times.
With that in mind, I probably won’t spend time trying to intellectually point out the problems with the Bible and all of that. Such things really don’t matter. So long as people can take the positive messages from the book without chastising others–which I think Christians refer to as not judging–then I’m okay with it.
I don’t agree with everything that goes on in church. But those folks go there to get something I’m also looking for–a little peace. That’s far more valuable than a piece of anything.
It doesn’t even really matter who’s right in the end. Just as long as we find a way to get where we need to go.
(And close friends, I know what you’re thinking. The answer–yes, she must be dope if she got me to go to church. Especially dope considering she didn’t even ask me to do it. So yeah, I am done for.)

12 Comments

  • Posted September 11, 2006 11:55 am 0Likes
    by Kirk

    Many, but not necessarily all, of the people that get their panties in a bunch over organized religion are fools. I’m no church-going regular, but getting upset that a bunch of people with similar needs and mindsets get together at a pre-determined time and place to talk about their beliefs and feel a little better…that’s stupid.
    Most of the time, if someone starts bitching about religion, I dismiss everything they say as ignorant from that point on. That approach has rarely failed me.

  • Posted September 11, 2006 1:20 pm 0Likes
    by Stephanie

    I used to be very hard on Christians myself. I’m still not a huge fan of the “organization” of religions, but I’ve always had a very fervent belief in the notion of a higher power (creator, force, energy, whatever you choose to call it), and I most assuredly believe in the power of prayer (whenever and however one chooses to do it). We all have a need for fellowship, and yearn for a way to give meaning to the things that occur in our lives and in the world, and if going to church serves that need for some, who am I to knock it? I don’t self-identify as a Christian, but in terms of some of my own beliefs, I’m probably more “Christian” than some who do. I go to church when I feel like it, which usually amounts to a few times a year, and have little patience for people who suggest I need to go more than that. Plus, the anthropologist in me has a thing for rituals of all kinds (I can enjoy a Catholic mass, and a pentecostal tent revival equally). Ultimately, everyone has to come at it in their own way, and as long as they don’t judge mine, I won’t judge theirs.

  • Posted September 11, 2006 1:33 pm 0Likes
    by Dame

    To balance Kirk, I find people who are able to articulate their personal conflicts w/ organized religion are very brave. I read them as people who are not afraid to stand on their beliefs. Beliefs defined more as “feelings” than taught values.
    I find people who wont discuss my religious questions openly and freely a little weird, and scared of “hell”. I’ve been told that it’s sacrilege to debate someone’s belief system. It’s an interesting theory (anyone have a scripture on that principle? Nope? Ok..), but again, it kind of goes against what I feel in my spirit and heart:
    I feel like the thing that seperates Human Beings from other animals is our mind. And the ability therein to REASON. I think God, our Creatoar, what-have-you is a smart cookie his/herself, and thus really appreciates us flexing our brain power. Taking in information from diff’t sources and cross-referencing it with other beliefs, values and “feelings” is (to some degree) a very inherent “human function”.
    If there was a book that was to be THE sole roadmap for my life, I think my creator would have hardwired the book into my psyche, so to speak. Similar to instinct. I know to instinctively eat. Instinctively we know to perform acts that lead to reproduction. If I start to feel as if I have to be in church (instinctively as opposed to from fellow-human “pressure”), I’ll be there all the time.
    Bo, I too get a GREAT recharge out of church sermons, when well delivered.
    What I don’t appreciate (the usual suspects): Attire comparisons, outdoing of one-another, Judging (hello!) , and lifestyle comparisons.
    When people start testifying as to how much material stuff God has blessed them with, I start to zone out, or just pray.
    I point interested folks to the book, The Four Agreements, which proposes that there are only two true emotions: love and fear. Fear’s younger cousin in guilt. Guilt is an important word in considering organized religion over time. Control is another.
    Regarding guilt. Some that feel “guilty” for having wealth, etc.. (seem to) tend to let us know that the Lord wants them to have these blessings.. etc.. It really trips me out and strikes me as motivated by pure Guilt over being so much better off than their brethren.
    Good post Bo. Don’t be scared of church, just be less scared of yourself. B/C that’s where all the answers lie; inside.
    -dameSTATUS

  • Posted September 11, 2006 1:46 pm 0Likes
    by Dame

    On a lighter note, whoever DJ Gallo is, you should link up w/ him. His NFL recap on ESPN.com shows great potential.
    I like that the editors there let you guys (writers and contributors) inject a little life into your stories; a little slang, or just kind of mean-spirited observations (w/in reason).
    Although I will say that Scoop Jackson even confuses me sometime w/ his hip hop/pop culture references.. and I’m a 28 y/o black male w/ roots in ATL and the Bay Area. It’s not like I’m in Wisconsin ya dig?

  • Posted September 11, 2006 3:24 pm 0Likes
    by Shot Clock

    yo, dame, i’m with you on your post. i couldn’t agree with Kirk less – to dismiss someone (“most of the time”) as ignorant because they “bitch” about religion doesn’t seem to make much sense. It just means that you have a hard time respecting differences within people and perhaps even accepting those with different lanes of thought. No one is to say if God really exists and in which form he exists. Is he really a guy who sits on a throne above the clouds? Or is he that sense of calm you receive when you do things the right way? Or is he both?
    I think those who are ignorant are those who cannot themselves justify their beliefs. I don’t care what you believe in, but if you really believe in it, you should be able to explain why. That goes back to what Dame said: Reason. In any case, I do believe in God, but I also don’t think we should think any less of those who don’t believe in him/her. That in itself is ignorant – because you are dismissing someone for their beliefs and you’re not listening or respecting their viewpoints. It’s almost completely hypocritical.
    Anyways, big up to Dame. Great post. I really like what you said. And, btw, where have you been since Roc-A-Fella broke up? I don’t see Dame and Jigga together anymore. And it’s a damn shame.
    And as a sidenote, I think Scoop Jackson gets a little carried away sometimes. Who made him the end-all and be-all of that grey area where hip-hop and sport collide? The dude is bonkers with his vocab sometimes – so much so that it becomes distracting to what he’s trying to say. Just a thought.

  • Posted September 11, 2006 3:40 pm 0Likes
    by strong

    Bo’ , I am glad to hear that you had a great experience at church and that you came out feeling better than when you went in. As a progressive, liberated Christian, for me that’s what church is all about, that and acknowledging the fact that as long as I live I’m a work in progress. I wouild love to see the black church as a whole go back to it’s role as a community center, political activism seat and economic empowerment base for all.
    peace always,
    strong

  • Posted September 11, 2006 5:38 pm 0Likes
    by Star

    You read my mind with that last comment. The whole time I was reading I kept thinking..she must be one heck of a chick. I think you captured the essence of the reason why folks go to church in the first place. They are seeking some sort of peace, most are smart enought to continue to go so they can figure out how to keep a hold on that same peace.

  • Posted September 11, 2006 7:59 pm 0Likes
    by Tyffany

    I’m glad that you had a good experience at church.
    The close relationship that I have with the friends I met at church is what keeps me going sometimes when things get rough. Like when I lost my sister, and both of my bestfriends (Tina and ‘Nisha).
    Maybe when you come back to the ‘A’ I can get you to visit my church. (*smile*)

  • Posted September 12, 2006 8:25 am 0Likes
    by ETS

    Bo, I’m very glad you had a good experience in church. And I’m glad you care enough about your woman to put your own discomfort aside to try to experience more of her world. Organized religions, Christianity specifically, has indeed done a lot of harm, but its done a lot of good too. I hope you get to experience more of that good.

  • Posted September 12, 2006 12:27 pm 0Likes
    by Dame

    (sneaks a peek at Tyffaany’s MSP page..)

  • Posted September 12, 2006 4:00 pm 0Likes
    by eauhellzgnaw

    Great post.
    I have to roll with Kirk. Those who seethe with hatred toward religion and people of faith are just as bad as the religious zealots they detest. Religion may not be for me, but as long as it’s respectful, there’s no need to get all bent out of shape about it. Shot Clock, I don’t think Kirk was saying that people shouldn’t challenge their own religious beliefs or those of others; I think he was talking specifically about those who make it their mission to disparage all religion.
    Since I’ve been able to choose, I’ve gone to church two times: once as a favor to a family member; once as a favor to a lady friend. I haven’t been back since.
    I had written off church, but the one I visited these two times was cool. It happened to be a megachurch, and though I’m not fond of those, the preacher was on point: smart, politically progressive, engaging. I still felt extremely uncomfortable and out of place though, simply because I don’t share their beliefs.
    After these first hand experiences, I had to revise my closed-minded denunciation of church. Tons of people have such positive experiences to counter those in churches where people engage in corruption and preach hatred, exclusion, and narrow-mindedness.

  • Posted September 12, 2006 4:31 pm 0Likes
    by ETS

    “Tons of people have such positive experiences to counter those in churches where people engage in corruption and preach hatred, exclusion, and narrow-mindedness.” – eauhellzgnaw
    Real Talk.

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