An explanation on religion

The other day, I gave a somewhat pointed retort to those that believe that Hurricanes Rita and Katrina were actually messages from God, exhibitions of his power intended to make infidels feel compelled to get some ackright. I’d be lying if I didn’t find that to be a little silly, but I would be wrong to be entirely dismissive of those that believe that way. They were raised in that, so I can’t knock them for believing that.
The problem is that many people who feel that way–though not necessarily the person who first brought that to me, a good friend of mine–have made my life unnecessarily difficult, and it pisses me off.

I was not raised in a church. A decent synopsis of my views can be found here, the original draft of a piece I did for Africana four years ago. It read better when it ran the first time because Kate and Phillippe got their hands on it, but this is the unedited version. It makes sense, even though there’s no editor in place. I’ll also warn you that this is probably not nearly as good as stuff I write now. You learn a lot after five years in the game.
(Same rules apply, kiddies. Please do not use this for professional gain without telling me. You are more than welcome to link to the file or this entry, but do not cut and paste the piece.)
I’ve had to do some reformulation of my religious views in the last few years. I’m not an atheist. I think I may have been a few years ago, but I’d really never given it enough thought to conclusively say that I had an ideology. At this point, I can definitively say I’m an agnostic, oxymoronic though it may be to definitively say that I’m a bit confused.
Is there a god? It seems possible to me, if not likely. Like I’ve said before, the people in my life and the things that have happened to me have been too random to be random. Plus, as charmed a bastard as I am, it’s hard not to thank something large for that. However, I believe in opposing actions. Basically, if I’m charmed, then a lot of people out there are fuckin’ cursed, and I’d prefer not to think that a god would curse people. Especially not children, who haven’t lived long enough to do anything to anyone or anything, let alone a god.
Or maybe a god is able to translate baby talk and detect heresy. Dunno.
So I’m an agnostic. That confuses people that were raised in church, I’ve come to find. Perhaps that could be more simply stated–I do not trust organized religion. I don’t trust anything organized but families, and those aren’t to be trusted all the time, either. I’m no religious scholar, but I’ve read enough to know that the trust isn’t to be trusted, and people would be hard-pressed not to see the point there. Muslim, Christian, whatever–just about all religions have been twisted by one person or another to serve the worldly needs of an elite class.
I don’t like the elite, even though I’m probably one of them and will almost certainly be one of them soon.
At the same time, I let people have theirs. If you want to be a Christian, that’s on you. If you want to go to church every week and give up ten percent of what you’ve got to the plate, do that (btw, when giving tithes, do you make that calculation as gross or net of taxes?). That’s on you. I understand that people need religion. They need something to ground them, to make sense of the inexplicable, something to give them a reason to believe that everything will be okay.
There are times when we all need that. When Jon died, I wished I could have that. Without any religion in my life, all I had was my overarching belief that everything will wind up being okay and the faith I had in my ability to deal with whatever was thrown at me.
A couple of bottles of cheap gin later, and all I was holding onto was the former of those. It managed to work out after a few years. Stopped drinking cheap gin way before, though.
But when you read that–not about gin, but the paragraph before–it sounds just like something a Christian would say, right? A Christian would likely say that God would not put anything in front of him or her that he or she was not able to handle. It seems like the same thing, but grounded in something slightly different.
Some call it arrogance, but I have a supreme belief in myself, my personal strength, and the personal strength of others. I think most people are way stronger than they believe. Tough times are when you find out just how strong you are. One day I will deal with losing my parents, something that seems totally foreign to me. But I will deal. A new element of my strength will become clear to me.
I just don’t put that straight on a god. Perhaps strength is something endowed from a god, but I don’t think strength is something one has to summon through prayer. Strength is within us all. We tap into it differently, but we all have it.
To me, it’s all the same.
To me, there are two kinds of people–good and bad. I’m pretty indifferent about what makes people good and bad. I fucks with good people. I fucks not with bad people. Just that simple.
So, why do I bring this up? Baba was doing some thinking this weekend. I’ve had no less than three women that I’ve dealt with fairly seriously tell me that my lack of religion was a serious stumbling block in dealing with them. One even went so far as to tell me that was the reason she was punting me to the curb (the real reason was she was going back to her previous boyfriend, with her lying ass). One about a year ago gave me a good punt two weeks after telling me that “to grow together, a couple must grow together in Christ.” Still don’t know what her real story was on that one. Probably never will.
(Luther had a different take on both of them. For the first one, he said something that I really can’t put here, but let’s just say that it was reflective of a bit of, shall we say, physical hypocrisy. As for the latter…well, Seuss was floored by what Luther had to say. To understand how extreme that must have been, keep in mind that Seuss wanted to “eat a plate of fish sticks, drink a gallon of milk, and stare right at her shoes.” Seuss is violently allergic to fish.)
Either way, thinking about that sort of stuff is beginning to get frustrating. I can’t do the church thing. Just can’t. I’ll go here and there with my mother–who has once again become active in the church after a few years away–because it’s important to her, but I’m not about to join or convert or anything. I feel like she raised me, and she and I have very similar values. The majority of goodness and honesty within me comes from my parents. They probably got that from the church, but it was given to me without the church, something that leads me to believe that goodness does not have to be given to someone through a twisted, mutated interpretation of what’s divine.
I think my mother fears that my soul will be doomed if I don’t get into the church thing, and that kinda hurts a bit. I don’t think there’s an afterlife–to explain my thoughts on that would take a while, but it’s borne in game theory, oddly enough–so that fear doesn’t hit me the same way. I guess I could pray for those things to be on the safe side, but that feels too hypocritical to me. Plus, I’m guessing that a god would be able to see through a “just in case” strategy.
But the older I get, the more tired I get of people being unable to accept where I come from on this thing. This is a Judeo-Christian society, so the majority of people I come across will be religious. It is what it is. I’m okay with that. I’m okay with them. I’m okay with them doing what they need to do to get by.
I just hope people can be okay with me the same way. I just can’t put no money on it.
That really sucks.
Oh well, I guess.
It’s the prospect of having a disconnect from people because of different beginnings irks me, if only because those beginnings lead to the same conclusions (at least in this world).
My informal research has shown that the majority of you will not agree with me. Nearly everyone I asked last year when it was looking like I’d lose someone that was then important to me because of religion understood where she was coming from, and they even said they would do the same thing. That was particularly bothersome because I was more head-over-heels than I ever remembered being.
That wasn’t just disillusioning for that one situation. That let me know I may be in bad shape for the rest of my life, at least when it comes to mate searching.
It would suck if that’s the case. It seems highly likely that it is the case.
Shucks.
Oh well. Just felt like sharing. Maybe someone will feel be able to offer some insight that would be useful for me and for others in similar positions. Just kinda sucks that I don’t feel like I can find people as tolerant of differing religious views as I am, even though most of those people subscribe to a religion that uses tolerance as its hallmark, its most attractive quality.
Such is life. Back to the fun stuff later this week. No less than two pieces running. One on ESPN about Michelle Wie and one on the BSN on The G-Code. That’s right, I’m doing a professional piece on The G-Code. Shawty yay-yuh!

20 Comments

  • Posted September 25, 2005 3:57 pm 0Likes
    by Solomeen

    This is coming from a cat who was raised in the church and does believe in God and the afterlife. Having navigated a particularly bumpy stretch of road lately, I’ve come to really realize that there’s something bigger than me playing the puppetmaster in my life. I find comfort in knowing that God loves me despite my continued jacked-up behavior. Now, if you want to have a conversation about organized religion, that a whole ‘nother shootin’ match…”Real G’s and the codes they violate–on the next Creflo Dollar(bill) presents…”
    Having said all of that, consider this as you think about ‘ol girl and the religious stick she whupped you with — Would you continue to date someone who had a personal habit or belief that drove you crazy or that you couldn’t co-sign? What if you found out some woman you really cared about — I’m talking nose-wipe-open-looking-for-her-in-the-daylight-with-a-flashlight in love — was shooting smack? What if she told you she wasn’t going to quit for you or anybody else and proved it with her actions? What if she stole your stuff and constantly lied to you? Would you be an all-day sucka? Hells no!!! You’d leave skidmarks getting out of there!
    I know I couldn’t be with a woman who smokes–I just can’t stand it. I’d kick Beyonce — yes, all of her — out if she had a nicotine jones. She worships the devil? She gotta go! But that’s just me. At the end of the day, we all have a list of the things we can and cannot tolerate.
    I’ll defend and respect your right to feel the way you do and I’m sure you’d extend the same courtesy to me. If we could all do that, this big ball of dirt would be a much nicer place to be.
    But that’s just me.

  • Posted September 25, 2005 4:40 pm 0Likes
    by James

    Sucks that a lot of Christians can’t understand what it’s like not to be a majority… Also sucks that alot of us use religous feelings as a cop out, like we can erase personal mistakes by saying “God says XYZ”. But as for you Bo, you’re honest and you mean well, which for is more than most people, religous or otherwise can say for themselves. And as for the question, “Is there a God?”, i think the best answer is this: if there is a God and He is good, He’ll seek out you.

  • Posted September 25, 2005 5:02 pm 0Likes
    by James

    Sucks that a lot of Christians can’t understand what it’s like not to be a majority… Also sucks that alot of us use religous feelings as a cop out, like we can erase personal mistakes by saying “God says XYZ”. But as for you Bo, you’re honest and you mean well, which for is more than most people, religous or otherwise can say for themselves. And as for the question, “Is there a God?”, i think the best answer is this: if there is a God and He is good, He’ll seek out you.

  • Posted September 25, 2005 5:14 pm 0Likes
    by ladyB

    I grew up thinking about and worshiping God but then things started happening… I know it is hard to be a religious person, sometimes even more difficult to date a religious person. Be that as it may, I recognize that someone somewhere has to be pulling some strings, telling things when to go, right? Just because I don’t understand God doesn’t mean there isn’t one. I’m not sure that the best answer is “if there is a God and he is good, he will seek you out.” I think we individually need to evaluate the essence of God in our lives. This is a highly personal decision and generally is not as simple as saying God is XYZ period.
    In terms of dating people, I could date someone who had a habit that drove me crazy. Having said that, however, it doesn’t seem to me that not being Christian is what drove this young women to play the religion card. In fact, anyone who knows Bo knows that he is essentially what a Christian is expected to be. He is kind, generous, respectful, honest, etc. It seems to me that this woman wanted an out for whatever reason and choose something that she could make a clean break with. I mean, consider if the bad habit was dipping snuff or devil worship, she wouldn’t have been around as long as she was, right?

  • Posted September 25, 2005 8:12 pm 0Likes
    by rhh

    I got turned off by organized religion because I feel it’s taught badly. The point of religion is to teach a certain type of living, and so many people, especially nowdays, get too caught up in details of one way of structuring those lessons versus another.
    I take a lot of my spirtual understanding from Buddhism, and I remember a hit one long-term relationship had to take when when she told me that my prayers were meaningless to her because I wasn’t praying to her god. She was so caught up in specific XYZ’s of Christianity that she missed the whole point of prayer.
    Keep ya head up, Bomani… I’ve been blessed to come across religions folk with mature perspectives and we can appreciate and learn from each other different ways of viewing spirtuality. There’s a lady out for you who can do the same.

  • Posted September 25, 2005 11:21 pm 0Likes
    by Ben

    Everybody always has a lot to say about God.
    Goddamn.

  • Posted September 26, 2005 3:43 am 0Likes
    by LBJ

    “Having said all of that, consider this as you think about ‘ol girl and the religious stick she whupped you with — Would you continue to date someone who had a personal habit or belief that drove you crazy or that you couldn’t co-sign? What if you found out some woman you really cared about — I’m talking nose-wipe-open-looking-for-her-in-the-daylight-with-a-flashlight in love — was shooting smack? What if she told you she wasn’t going to quit for you or anybody else and proved it with her actions? What if she stole your stuff and constantly lied to you? Would you be an all-day sucka? Hells no!!! You’d leave skidmarks getting out of there!
    I know I couldn’t be with a woman who smokes–I just can’t stand it. I’d kick Beyonce — yes, all of her — out if she had a nicotine jones. She worships the devil? She gotta go!”
    I believe in God and really don’t doubt he’s there but on the quote I posted above, if you think about it, in some way or another that’s what we do to God at least from time to time it’s like we pick out his pet peeves and do those the most yet he still has uncoditional Love. This is where some churches dissappoint me they don’t illustrate this unconditional love in fact it’s more of the opposite it’s very conditional on whether your the type of person they like. Well that’s my piece of God. There’s alot of ignorant Christian’s but there’s also alot of ignorant (insert relgion here) for every religion. But hey that’s what I Love about God he Loves me no matter what I do.

  • Posted September 26, 2005 8:04 am 0Likes
    by DP

    One of the reasons that agnosticism is so difficult to embrace for many Christians is that it flies in the face of something central to them. Many believe that to even question anything is tantamount to blasphemy and they live their lives as such. They forget that Jesus questioned God on more than one occasion, and as he was yet sinless, clearly that doesn’t disqualify you for holiness.
    I don’t know Bo(mani) but I am seeing his soul on these web-pages. What he chooses to do with it, ultimately is on him. Where Christians go wrong is that they dont handle their own business and let other folk LIVE their lives and let God do his work on the whole picture.
    I put a girl down for a similar reason as what happened to Bomani, but I can bet he didnt spring his relative unbelief on her the day before she broke. She thought if she hung around he’d come around, but that is just the height of arrogance. You cant get into a relationship trying to love someone into the baptismal. I’d go on, but this aint my dime. Wonderful Post, bro.
    ‘Preciate that, dude. And no, no one’s ever surprised to find out my religious views. Beyond writing about it more than a few times, I make it fairly clear.

  • Posted September 26, 2005 10:36 am 0Likes
    by Fred Batiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction

    Finally, the WMD…..has come back to BomaniJones.com….
    Seriously though, let me preface this by saying the following…
    I was raised Catholic (and I think Catholics get the most ribbing out of the “Christian” community).
    With that in mind…
    I get the speech from my sister and mother about why I don’t go to church anymore. At times I said, “I dunno.” But now, I see it as cutting out the middle man. I was taught that religion is a person’s ,individual relationship with the higher power (God, Allah, Buddah, Hugh Hefner or whatever else y’all call that diety).
    However, I’ve seen how some folks get it messed up. In my opinion, those who show out and call themselves “Christians” aren’t really Christians. Think about it, Jesus was poor. If Jesus was around now, he’d probably be on food stamps living in section 8 going to the worst public schools. Jesus was no baller, by any stretch. He knew he could turn water into wine (my personal favorite), bring the dead back to life, cure people and all that. But he never flossed that in peoples faces. Jesus knew what the deal was: be humble and treat people good. That’s how you get love.
    It’s ironic that folks build these massive churches and people drive fancy cars in the name of a higher power, failing to realize that the person they’re preaching in the name of lived in squalor. These preachers or whatever driving escalades, if J.C. of Nazereth was here…he’d probably be catching public transportation and wearing pro wings.
    I never understood tithing. Note: I grew up on food stamps and all that and money was kinda scare. I used to ask my mother when I was little to let me have a dollar for the candy machine at school. She’d say she didn’t have any. But Sunday came around and she had an envelope with $2 or $3 or $5. I used to call her on that, but she’d give me some ol’ interpretation excuse…
    But Bo, you shoulda Ric Flair chopped that chick for using that reckless religion thing as an excuse to get back with her ex. If a person truly cares about you, they wouldn’t care if your political/religious views are slightly different than theirs. Now a drug problem, now that’s a whole ‘nother sturrie, ya dig!
    Before I go, I remember doing a story on this church group doing Christmas drives. Went over to the place and talked to a lady, who went to her car when I was walking out and handed me a bible. So she gets me to talk on religion (something i do stray away from) and I basically said ” You know treat others like you want to be treated, because Karma is very true.”
    That woman told me something to the effect that I don’t know or believe in that Karma mess.
    God help her!!!

  • Posted September 26, 2005 10:53 am 0Likes
    by Kirk

    Not sharing someone’s beliefs is not the same thing as disrespecting those beliefs. Unfortunately, some people are either unable or unwilling to realize that. Those are people you’re probably better off staying away from anyway.

  • Posted September 26, 2005 12:19 pm 0Likes
    by dame

    So, Bomani, you’re not alone, it’s just that many men would rather seem agreeable, and hope that all the (human) determined rituals (service, tithing, etc..), don’t really come to pass too ofen in their future marriages.
    Plus, some people know what they were raised in. As a man, I feel (know) that I will have to take over some of the roles my female’s family has traditionally played in her life. From this, I think that She and I should come to our own agreement about faith.
    Plus, is she wanted to marry the preacher or deacon’s son, she would have only met men in church, not @ The Club, College, or in the Mall.
    (JOKING people!, joking).
    I always find humor in people trying to “out-christian” eachother.
    The club, actually, is THE place to meet a preacher’s kid.

  • Posted September 26, 2005 12:59 pm 0Likes
    by Elizabeth

    Good point Kirk. I grew up in the (at that time) huge Worldwide Church of God. The beliefs were hard on a kid…no Christmas, no birthdays, Saturday church…tough stuff. Not to mention our family was one of the few dark specks within thousands of members. It was the only place I was around white people. And I’m sure from their behavior, it was the only time they were around black people. One Saturday, my mom informed me that I was too old to sit and play or sleep in church. So what else was there to do than listen? That began my separation from all things organized religion. By high school, my parents stopped making me go. Luckily religion never killed my belief in God. Like you Bo, I feel like there has to be some divine hand in my life cuz if it was just me making the choices, I’d probably be dead by now. It feels like there has to be God that the mistakes that I made and continue to make haven’t led to disaster or self distruction. I find it hard to enter a church because unlike most, I actually listen to the messenger. And everytime I go to church, the preacher is saying something that ain’t quite what I feel is Godly to a response of amens just cuz he threw in the word Jesus. I’ve heard God throughout life through various people and experiences, but I don’t think I ever felt church was a particularly holy place. Not to mention, my general distrust of preachers/ministers/priests whatever. Why do we let people dictate to us who God is? I think we all have to find meaning for ourselves. If you truly strive to be a good person, who can condemn you? Fuck what good book you’re hiding behind. Which brings me to my other issue with the purity of the bible. The bible has many good lessons, but the words through translation and manipulation can’t possibly have remained in the state it was originally meant. I don’t believe beliefs should make you blind. If you blindly believe that is a huge danger to yourself and your fellow man. People seem to justify the most heinous of actions in the name of the Father. My mom and sister particularly seem to be worried about my soul. It bothers me that they feel like that way. I don’t understand how these people who’ve known me better than anyone all my life could think my soul’s in danger. I just pray, when I do pray, that God will see me and help me be the best person I can. Someone we can both be proud of. In the end, that’s all that really matters.

  • Posted September 26, 2005 2:07 pm 0Likes
    by jaedalaurez

    I can understand wanting someone who shares the same faith as you- relationships are hard enough, and that’s just one more wrinkle.
    Your beliefs are important- they are part and parcel of who you are…so if you find that being with someone- even somebody as wonderful as yourself ;-} -might put you in a situation where you have to compromise those beliefs, you might be forced to make a choice. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. They may not have wanted to make that choice because they cared about you, but they did what their conscience told them to, so I can’t knock them for that.
    The chick who was lying and just went back to her ex- that was grimy.
    But for the others- I understand. My husband and I do not share the same religion, and whereas it was different when it was just the two of us…we now have a daughter, and we’re entering holiday season- and my religion doesn’t celebrate. For me, celebration would be a compromise of my faith, so I won’t be. I can’t say that I will ever leave my husband because of our respective religions- we both knew the deal when we met, and we accepted each other regardless- but I do respect somebody for wanting that same foundation, whether it be Christ or Allah or Buddah or whatever.

  • Posted September 26, 2005 3:44 pm 0Likes
    by FrankM

    My life became much easier once I became a born again agnostic…

  • Posted September 26, 2005 7:34 pm 0Likes
    by AmandaP

    One of my fave quotes is from Mahatma Ghandi, who said “I like your Christ, but I don’t like your Christians.”
    I think it’s really un-Christ-like to judge anyone/have prejudice against someone/refuse to love someone because of their beliefs. It belies an attitude of superiority and that’s so negative.
    I personally don’t claim any religion. I was raised Catholic, but I thought so many people in that environment acted with so little actual compassion… I don’t even think Catholicism is a religion now, I think it’s just an oppressive institution.
    I’ve since dabbled in Buddhism and Jewish Mysticism and all kinds of thought, and I just take a little bit of what works for me from all of them: Just spirituality in general, being a good person, and acting with humility (as someone in an another post said).
    One fairly common tenet that turns me off absolutely is the belief that only the people who think THIS way are going to heaven. That’s blackmail. And whatever – Maybe we just rot.
    But, back to love – My recent ex was a pastor’s son, from a really conservative, tee-totalling, Evangelical background. And, despite my never even pretending to be like them, he (an avowed Christian Existentialist) and his family embraced me as true Christians should. I really respected them for that.
    So I can feel love for people whatever they believe – I simply will not tolerate an asshole – you know: puppy-kickin, abusive types. (arrogantly religious ones, too). And I think that’s the way it should be.
    And I’m a lady, so, hey Bomani, we’re out there.

  • Posted September 27, 2005 3:13 am 0Likes
    by big grip

    Bo,
    I want to begin by thanking you for baring your soul in this environment. You share your joys and your pains and offer them up for our discussion. This is a commendable thing.
    I’m a “struggling” Christian myself. I try to do the right thing, and I try to be an example, but I have certain things that keep me from freely worshiping.
    We have some real “g’s” in the pulpit here in the “A”. Jigga and Fiddy have nothing on Eddie Long and Creflo Dollar. The AJC did an expose:

    Bishop Long runs a charity that 3.5 million dollars in revenue from 2000 to 2003. It paid out over 3 million of those dollars in salary to bishop. He lives in a mansion on 20 acres in Lithonia. Now what is “Godly” about this situation.
    I’m a “beatitude” Christian. You know, Blessed are the meek, Blessed are the peacemakers, etc. These values have no voice in the modern Black church. Its hard to tell the difference between the preaches and the pimps.
    If the preacher is a pimp, then what does that make us as parishoners?
    I need to be understanding to get people to listen my testimony. If I spend all of my time yelling at you about your shortcomings, while conveniently ignoring my own, then I will never be able to reach you.
    By the way, I think that God would be pleased with the work that you have done on this site in the wake of the hurricanes.

  • Posted September 27, 2005 3:13 am 0Likes
    by big grip

    Bo,
    I want to begin by thanking you for baring your soul in this environment. You share your joys and your pains and offer them up for our discussion. This is a commendable thing.
    I’m a “struggling” Christian myself. I try to do the right thing, and I try to be an example, but I have certain things that keep me from freely worshiping.
    We have some real “g’s” in the pulpit here in the “A”. Jigga and Fiddy have nothing on Eddie Long and Creflo Dollar. The AJC did an expose:

    Bishop Long runs a charity that 3.5 million dollars in revenue from 2000 to 2003. It paid out over 3 million of those dollars in salary to bishop. He lives in a mansion on 20 acres in Lithonia. Now what is “Godly” about this situation.
    I’m a “beatitude” Christian. You know, Blessed are the meek, Blessed are the peacemakers, etc. These values have no voice in the modern Black church. Its hard to tell the difference between the preaches and the pimps.
    If the preacher is a pimp, then what does that make us as parishoners?
    I need to be understanding to get people to listen my testimony. If I spend all of my time yelling at you about your shortcomings, while conveniently ignoring my own, then I will never be able to reach you.
    By the way, I think that God would be pleased with the work that you have done on this site in the wake of the hurricanes.

  • Posted September 27, 2005 10:22 am 0Likes
    by Fred Batiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction

    Man all this got me thinking of a line from Talib Kweli’s “Around My Way”
    Feeling like you gotta sneak into heaven…
    When the reverend looking like a pimp and the pimp look like the reverend

    I remember one time when i was tryin to leave the house for school and these door-to-door preachers came and blocked me in right before i could turn the key in the ignition…Asking me about being saved…
    So, me, being the smart ass, replied, “How do YOU know you’re saved? Wouldn’t you knowing you’re saved defeat the purpose of judgement day?”
    That effectively shut them up and they let me on my way. I remember reading Hawthorne’s “The Devil and Tom Walker” in high school. I don’t know how many of you remember the part when the Devil took your boy into the swamp and showed him trees signifying the people in the town. The biggest tree was this big-time merchant that did a lot for the community, but the tree was rotten on the inside, just like the merchant. I guess it was symbolism or something, but that always stayed with me…
    If the preacher’s the pimp, that does not make the parishoners his bottom beeyatches. Well, maybe the ones he’s sleepin’ with on the side, a la Richard Pryor in “Which Way Is Up.”
    Like somebody said, I don’t really trust people with “The Rev.” or “Bishop” or “Pastor” or “Father” or any other religious title in their name. I also don’t trust people that talk fast, but that’s a different story.
    Besides, one culture’s religion is another millennia’s mythological studies…
    But Bo, you need to tell whoever knockin you for you for your beliefs….If You Don’t Like It, Learn To Love It…’Cuz It’s the Best Thing Goin’ Today!!!! Whooooooooooo”””

  • Posted September 28, 2005 10:56 am 0Likes
    by Tavares

    Dude,
    You will be hard pressed to find a black female that is not a christian. I have gone through the same trials with females I was interested in. Seems like they were also interested in me but my subtle christian disses that take place in my everyday conversation were too much for them to handle.
    That dude that said taking the road less traveled made all the difference had a point. In this world of conformity, a person with the audacity to think for themselves is an oasis…especially a person whose ancestors were forced into a religion that is accepted without question generations later.
    I say let the sheep happily chew their cud – even if those sheep are close to us. The communal reinforcement thing is powerful. Most people find comfort (bliss) in not knowing. This is the way things have always been.
    Again, I know your pain. Some of the baddest women my eyes have ever seen go to church religiously. But if you ever do run across one that is a freethinker – she will make all the difference.
    “lets make heaven right here just in case they wrong” – boots riley

  • Posted September 3, 2013 11:51 am 0Likes
    by Jacque Carter

    What’s going on Brotha? I feel your pain. I am an atheist and I’m a black man and have been rejected by women just because of my lack of religion. I have heard the equally yoked line so many times its ridiculous. One of my ex’s told me no matter what I showed her in my research on religion she still believes in Jesus and she was sold out with Christ. I sat there dumbfounded like as smart as this woman is she is dumb as fuck. She didn’t want to hear shit that was going to take away her Jesus and his daddy. It is a plethora of sistas out here that think that way and will be single for a long time or they will get with a “god fearing” man that will prey on their gullibility and use and abuse them.

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