What is a Blogger?

What’s a blogger? What’s a writer?
I’m not sure there’s a difference. After all, I run this blog, but most of you say that I’m a writer. People do pay me to write, so I guess I am a writer, in a way. However, I blog daily and write professionally something more like weekly, so one could easily say I’m more blogger than writer.
Perhaps this seems an existential exercise, but there appears to be a serious chasm between people that call themselves “writers” and people that call themselves “bloggers,” and it’s really silly.

What brings this on? I know I’m late, but I was just made aware of a “blogwar”–really, wtf?–involving fairly well-known writer kris ex and “bloggers” Hashim Warren and Byron Crawford (those last two are on the blogroll). I put “blogger” in quotation mark because that feels like a limited term. Both Hashim and Bol are good writers–they joined me on the illustrious izrael list of young writers to watch–both capable of sharp insight. I would personally like to see Bol show a bit more of that insight, but when one considers that he gets as much traffic in ten minutes than I do in a day, it’s impossible for me to knock what he’s doing.
My point, though, is that he’s a writer. In fact, I think that we’re all writers in a way. I was just reading an essay in Ralph’s Why Black People Tend to Shout, and Ralph said in there that writers are born, not made. Sure, anyone can be made aware of the technical parameters that a writer should follow, but the ability to move someone with words is innate. “Writers” have typically taken more time to work on the craft and, therefore, have a few more technical tools at their discretion.
That’s all window dressing, though. Having that window dressing is important for being a professional writer, but it’s not enough to make someone a writer.
I guess I’m saying that not being a professional writer does not preclude one from being a “writer.” I started writing professionally during a terrible summer, but I didn’t become some different person when I finally starting putting the keyboard to work for me. I was the same cat. If I was a “writer” after getting some checks, then I was also a writer when I was losing my soul as a chemistry major, and God knows I remained a writer while that Ph.D program was sapping my soul.
So why do I mention this? At the risk of rehashing–and re-igniting some “beef”–kris ex took exception to a quasi-review that Hashim did of the autobiography 50 Cent wrote with kris. What he wrote was pretty funny, and it wasn’t too much different from what I blogged about that same book over on the bidness thang.
Seemed pretty benign, right? Tell that to kris, who (link removed per legitimate request) proceeded to call Hashim every variety of homosexual there is, but then came with a strange closing considering how silly and homophobic the entirety of his 1,500 word diatribe was. ‘Twas a bunch of stuff that one would never say without his hands protecting his face plate, and it’s bad news to do that stuff on the ‘Net. I doubt kris knows what Bol or Hashim looks like. They know what kris looks like. Depending on how they role, kris coulda caught a bad one. There are great stories about cats gettin’ stomped out by folks they offend on the Internet.
And they’re real, jack. Trust me.
kris stepped across a line. While we’re all writers, we’re not all professionals, and this is something a professional wouldn’t involve himself with. C’mon dude…don’t body yaself? This can’t be serious. Body…you mean like getting killed? Over twenty-four words, all of which I could comfortably say in front of my mother? Man…what ever happened to just leaving a comment? That’s what the damn field is for.
But let’s not get too wrapped in that. kris chose the route he chose, and he, Bol, and Hashim have had to deal with the strange consequences of those words (lots of phone calls, a threat here and there…you know, the basics). The real concern I have is that there really appears to be divide between “writers” and “bloggers,” and it makes no sense to me. We’re all just saying what the fuck we feel. That’s it. The deeper I get into this media game and the more I meet people I’ve always looked up to, I realize that they–and I–do the same thing that people do in the barber shop. We try to make points, we try to get reactions, and we try to be, on some level, right. But we don’t do this with some magical set of tools or ideologies. We do this with our influences, our educations, our passions, our shortcomings, and our intellects, all of which are molded by our experiences.
We’re all the same in this.
But there are “bloggers” who harbor some hostility toward “writers” because they don’t appreciate the “writers'” perspectives, and I’m sure there’s a strong handful of bloggers that wish they were writing professionally. At the same time, writers have to realize, at some point, that a lot of these bloggers get traffic that trumps the circulation of more major magazines. Really, is kris ex more well-known at this point than Byron Crawford? I’ve seen Crawford’s numbers. At last check, he’s got one of the top 60,000 sites on the net in terms of traffic.
That’s reach, baby.
And perhaps there are writers who are bothered by that. Lots of folks get into this business for that reach and to be come famous. It should be noted that anyone that writes for fame is dumb as a sack of hammers. Better learn to rap, dude. All the same, some people are turned on by the prospect of being known, and it must suck to those people to see that after paying dues, fetching coffee, writing for shitty magazines, interviewing shitty rappers and, in some cases, enduring nauseating sexual harassment, there are cats that went to Blogspot and started their own shit and got audiences that many folks dream of.
And they didn’t even get into it for money.
Maybe that’s where this division between writers and bloggers began, but it’s silly. The best part about the Internet is the way it provides access to a world of opinions and takes away the unnecessary weight “prestige” carries. We’re all just saying what we think and feel. Some of us are better at it than others, but we’re really all the same in that respect. The cat that can’t respect the blogger is the cat that can’t respect wisdom from the street corner, the cat that doesn’t realize how useless it is to consider the credentials of the source instead of the credibility.
Personally, I thought this blogwar was funny, but it really did disturb me, and I ain’t even one of those “cry at after-school specials” sorts of cats. I’m a professional writer that loves to blog and read blogs, and I’m always looking for new things to read. My frustration is with the belief many writers have about those that don’t write, which is similar to the way engineers and scientists feel about thoses that don’t perform their trades. They have the general belief that people do not go into said realms professionally because of some shortcoming in their skill sets, never considering that some people just might not feel like doing that shit (for example, I gave away a $80k scholarship from the Navy to do chemistry because I just ain’t feel like it).
When kris decided to use this as a writer’s battle or something, it set my antenna off for what really might be going on here. Maybe I’m reaching, but there really appears to be a divide going on. To some, being a writer isn’t as cool because anyone can go to Blogspot and set their shit up. It’s less exclusive, and everyone knows that exclusivity’s best property is itself.
So what, man? Just write and roll from there. It’s a professional duty, but it’s also what we should all be doing. Just write. This ain’t the business for sensitivity, and it surely ain’t the business for beefing. Most writers ain’t equipped for fighting, meaning you really shouldn’t mess with ’em. Why fight when you can squeeze, right?
And now, this is done. Forgive me getting unnecessarily philosophical about this, but it just felt like it needed to be said.

32 Comments

  • Posted August 18, 2005 4:19 pm 0Likes
    by Spider Goodlegs

    Silly hatred will always come to those of us who do it just for sport and can keep doing it with autonomy.
    Everyone knows sovereignty is the envy of all writers.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 4:51 pm 0Likes
    by Spider Goodlegs

    >Journalists… obligated to get shit right the first time. Still obligated to get the facts right.
    Riiiiiiight. Just keep telling yourself that.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 11:30 am 0Likes
    by Kirk

    Yeah, the whole blogwar concept seems pretty pathetic to me. How someone can start a “beef” over the internet and still look at themselves in the mirror without overwhelming shame and laughter is beyond me.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 11:49 am 0Likes
    by Kevin L. Clark

    I agree. Beefing on the internet is not really the business. Anyone who is trying to do this whether for mere sport or to reach the majors needs to understand the art of being a professional. Was kris ex being one in response to comments made by Hashim? Uhh… no… it seemed childish and petty — but maybe that was the case. Maybe in the long run, he looks to have his name in people’s mouth. I mean — we’re all talking about it, no matter how stupid it may be…

  • Posted August 18, 2005 7:14 pm 0Likes
    by Spider Goodlegs

    >Does that mean every one that has that title “journalist” does? No. That’s like saying a married man/woman is obligated not to cheat on their spouse…
    Yup. I’d say the numbers are about the same.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 8:27 pm 0Likes
    by Spider Goodlegs

    >so Spider…tell me, what you find so flawed about journalists…
    The freedom with which you call yourselves that.
    Blah blah blah to your limp personal attacks, btw. Is that as hard as you come? Figures. Like most “journalists” you have no facts, nothing to add, no capacity to grab my interest and no credentials I can respect.
    Grow up, Anchorman. Sincerely.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 8:43 pm 0Likes
    by Spider Goodlegs

    Never that. Just respect that I don’t trust you because you’re in print and calling yourself a “journalist” anymore than I trust a drunk crazy blogger. That’s all.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 2:01 pm 0Likes
    by dame

    to the 2 above commenters; to wave your hand and say e-beef is lame, is kind of to not understand what Bomani is saying. Kinda, so don’t come at me.
    Anway, the beef is a natural outlet of the pressure that is building up between long time “writers/journalists” and (seemingly )ad-hoc bloggers. It’s like a turf war for eyes, credibility and respect. For one to surmise that just because the medium is the internet, that it’s somehow false, is not dumb, just uniformed.
    There’s a commenter @ byron’s site right now that would likely try to claw my eyes out in person. But he’s in his cube in NY, and I’m in my cube in ATL, so it’s all peace. I’ve seen personal addresses and phone numbers given out, as to say “come get me MF!”, Pacino style. Laugh if you want.
    From where I sit, as a ninja employed in financial svcs, but selling my soul daily bomani style, I love the pure outlet that a blog can bring. And I don’t even post that often, I moreso read a ton of other blogs and engage in an equally ghetto and scholarly debate with whoever feels like chiming in.
    I loved Bill Simmons’ work, so I became a fan.
    I loved Wiley’s work, so I became a fan.
    I’m beginning to love Bomani’s work, so now I’m a fan.
    I love Bol’s work, so now I’m a fan.
    I love my own voice, so I keep writing/blogging whatever you want to call it.
    Also, in true blog fashion, I gotsta throw a big azz “Nullus” behind all those displays of artistic love and respect. Cuz that’s how the blogeratti rolls.
    I also love to read Davey D, Chuck D (but I hate interperting his suggestive way of spelling; ex: EmptV (as in MTV)), and Cedric Muhammed @ Blackelectorate.com.
    Support writers you like, I don’t care if they write on paper bags. They’d support you if you actually took the time to write some shyt down.
    Church.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 2:16 pm 0Likes
    by djxplicit.blogspot.com

    there is a link on hashim warren’s page to his pic and bol has given away his home address several times.
    just sayin.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 2:41 pm 0Likes
    by J Long

    Blog “Beef”…wow. I mean come on. Why is Kris EX even mad. If he didn’t like the book idea then that’s on Hashim. People getting alil carried away, qoute Hov rap lyrics. He a writer and couldn’t even come with some orginality.
    This can’t be life…

  • Posted August 18, 2005 9:57 pm 0Likes
    by Spider Goodlegs

    >Limp personal attacks? I don’t do personal atacks.(sp.) I was tryin to get you to lighten up and converse a little on the topic..Maybe you can be the old black lady in the them(sic?) Matrix movies and be the all-knowing Oracle of this thread…just don’t tell me about to break the vase before I do it(sic and no idea what the fuck you’re saying here)…So tell me more about the perceived freedom people in the field call themselves “journalists..”(sic?)
    Did I attribute you the way you like this time? I guess you didn’t run this past the dept. in charge of double checking YOUR writing, huh.
    As is my norm with hot air “journalists,” I’m too bored to wait around for you to issue the corrections/clarifications/”oops we fucked up” on this.
    Well played Fred. Edward R Murrow is undoubtedly spinning with pride…

  • Posted August 18, 2005 10:01 pm 0Likes
    by Spider Goodlegs

    P.S. So much for being “obligated to get shit right the first time,” right Fred?

  • Posted August 18, 2005 3:18 pm 0Likes
    by Kel

    Your style and indepth in writing is a-fuckin-mazin. I’ll be adding you to my daily reads. Word.
    Thank you, but here’s a warning…start saying stuff like that out loud and all your credibility as a human will go out the window. But please, read daily :).

  • Posted August 18, 2005 11:14 pm 0Likes
    by Spider Goodlegs

    B.
    I stopped taking you seriously when you asked if a journalist took my bike/lunch money/dime bag, so don’t give me this ridonkulous high and mighty shit. In fact, I stopped taking you seriously when you started defending the craft of journalism against bloggers. And forget trying to engage me in your dull baiting, I don’t field questions from reporters I don’t respect.
    Thanks, fellas, for showing just what I was talking about.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 4:27 pm 0Likes
    by FredBatiste, A Weapon of MassDestruction

    Net Beef? What the hell? That’s worser than the legitimizing cheerleading as an actual sport….
    Now, in my opinion…
    1. Journalists (people like me) have little leeway with opinionizing what they write, unless it’s editorials/commentary/columns..more commonly found in newsrooms…Most obligated to get shit right the first time.
    2. Writers (people like Bo) have more creative freedom on a daily basis than Journalists and have more leeway to inject their own slant than myself. Still obligated to get the facts right.
    3. Bloggers generally do not have to get the facts right before putting their slant to it. Sort’ve like the difference between wrestling/rasslin’… One’s for real and the other’s entertainment…
    I know a lot of writers have blogs, but traits of the writer are still evident…and I respect/enjoy that.

  • Posted August 18, 2005 5:03 pm 0Likes
    by FredBatiste, A Weapon of MassDestruction

    Yeah Spider, I said it: Obligated…
    Does that mean every one that has that title “journalist” does? No. That’s like saying a married man/woman is obligated not to cheat on their spouse.
    If you don’t believe me about obligations to get it right the first time, there are things put in a paper called “corrections/clarifications” that run daily sayin “oops we fucked up”..
    Now there’s this other little thing called “libel,” but that’s a whole other subject
    FYI: Don’t cut out things from another statement to fit in your response – like you did mine. That’s not good journalism. You also did not attribute the quote to me (Attribution/lack of attribution is one of the main things that gets a correction/gets a paper in legal trouble).

  • Posted August 18, 2005 5:14 pm 0Likes
    by dame

    Go spider, go Fred,
    It’s yall birthday!
    And I’m still not reading the 50 bio, i don’t care if it’s penned by Dostoyevsky.
    (Yes I know he’s dead)

  • Posted August 18, 2005 5:44 pm 0Likes
    by FredBatiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction

    Dame, you silly!!! lol
    Really, I could care less about 50 anyway.. I think his 2.5 years of hotness have elapsed…
    Every rap act/label has had the average of 2.5 years of being the shit… if you don’t believe that theory, just think back from when Rakim was on top..until now

  • Posted August 18, 2005 7:36 pm 0Likes
    by FredBatiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction

    so Spider…tell me, what you find so flawed about journalists..Did a journalist take your significant other or something? Journalist took your bike/lunch money/dime bag? Please, tell us your story…Do you think the Fourth Estate has failed? Why? I’m interested to find out what you think.
    But I see you learned from my FYI….get the whole quote before you respond..I’m proud of ya!
    I think bloggers got it easy, cuz they can really say anything they want without facing the legal repurcussions that I would face if I do that same in the confines of a publication (I need to start bloggin’ 4-real, Bo.)..

  • Posted August 18, 2005 8:37 pm 0Likes
    by Kirk

    Uh oh…blogwar!

  • Posted August 18, 2005 9:26 pm 0Likes
    by Fred Batiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction

    Anchorman…now that’s an attack and an insult!!!! TV people are the absolute worst..please we in the field know who does the work and who don’t do the work.
    Limp personal attacks? I don’t do personal atacks. I was tryin to get you to lighten up and converse a little on the topic..Maybe you can be the old black lady in the them Matrix movies and be the all-knowing Oracle of this thread…just don’t tell me about to break the vase before I do it…
    So tell me more about the perceived freedom people in the field call themselves “journalists..”
    In theory…the field isn’t a profession, because there’s no certification for it like doctors, teachers and others
    You haven’t answered my question: What’s your take on the Fourth Estate? Has the conglomeration of major media put a damper of finding out the truth? How would you improve it? I’m actually interested to hear what you hafta say.
    Naw Kirk, there’s no blogwar…nothing good comes from war…and like Marving Gaye said, “War is not the answer.” (note the attribution *wink*)

  • Posted August 18, 2005 10:44 pm 0Likes
    by FredBatiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction

    Dayyyyum… spell check smack!?!?!?!?!?! So um, what point(s) are you proving right now? Murrow was a TV guy! You could’ve said Ida B. Wells, Woodward&Burnstein, Ralph Wiley (my new hero, thanks Bo!) or somebody. Hell, you could’ve even said Ed Bradley for all I care.
    You still were too busy spell checkin’ to read what I’ve asked twice. So I’ll just C-n-P (copy and paste) it again for you…
    So tell me more about the perceived freedom people in the field call themselves “journalists..”
    In theory…the field isn’t a profession, because there’s no certification for it like doctors, teachers and others
    You haven’t answered my question: What’s your take on the Fourth Estate? Has the conglomeration of major media put a damper of finding out the truth? How would you improve it? I’m actually interested to hear what you hafta say.
    Please refrain from the mature spell check smack and answer my question please…
    besides…this is a blog, there’s no spell checkin’ in a blog

  • Posted August 18, 2005 10:45 pm 0Likes
    by FredBatiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction

    Dayyyyum… spell check smack!?!?!?!?!?! So um, what point(s) are you proving right now? Murrow was a TV guy! You could’ve said Ida B. Wells, Woodward&Burnstein, Ralph Wiley (my new hero, thanks Bo!) or somebody. Hell, you could’ve even said Ed Bradley for all I care.
    You still were too busy spell checkin’ to read what I’ve asked twice. So I’ll just C-n-P (copy and paste) it again for you…
    So tell me more about the perceived freedom people in the field call themselves “journalists..”
    In theory…the field isn’t a profession, because there’s no certification for it like doctors, teachers and others
    You haven’t answered my question: What’s your take on the Fourth Estate? Has the conglomeration of major media put a damper of finding out the truth? How would you improve it? I’m actually interested to hear what you hafta say.
    Please refrain from the mature spell check smack and answer my question please…
    besides…this is a blog, there’s no spell checkin’ in a blog. Spell checkin’ a blog is like watching the Saints play: utterly useless!

  • Posted August 18, 2005 11:49 pm 0Likes
    by Ben

    There’s some folks here that seriously need to get laid.
    I swear I’ll let you guest post one day, man. Hooray Ben!

  • Posted August 19, 2005 9:24 am 0Likes
    by dame

    Bo, (almost called you bol), is Fred your friend w/ TWC?
    I googled him and early results suggest so. My cousin just finished a great internship there, and has a standing offer for when he finishes Atl Art Inst. Just networking ya know,
    About the above beef, Fred did seem to be bent on breaking out, not two, but three categories: Journalists, Writers, and Bloggers.
    I can see the need to seperate, especially when he feels he’s part of the upper most group (there in descending order for a reason). In my “business” a professional, on the exchange floor securities trader, would classify a day trader in an office as somehow beneath him, and a home/part-time investor as even lower.
    I think more stands to be gained from trying to articulate the similarities and fluidity between all three (Jour,Writ,Blog). However, it’s Friday Morning and the ride in on 85 has me feeling all peaceful like that.
    Fred you’d probably really like Spiddy’s writings, as long as you don’t have any neo-con deep inside, and I’d like to read your stuff too.
    Where it be at?
    Fred doesn’t work for TWC, but he also did a TWC tape. Really, you’ll die laughing if I find a way to upload it. And sorry about driving 85 in the morning, no matter the direction.

  • Posted August 19, 2005 11:17 am 0Likes
    by FredBatiste, A Weapon of Mass Destruction

    Dame,
    The TWC tapes are funny as hell. I might pop mines in right now and get a good laugh in before work…I never had a jacket the size of the one on the tape since like 1985….I shoulda took that jacket and brought it home for one of my nephews….
    I wasn’t really trying to categorize, moreless start a dialogue which, as you see above, quickly digressed into some net Spam (not worthy of being called beef)…
    But relax….It’s a celebratioooooon!!!!

  • Posted August 19, 2005 4:07 pm 0Likes
    by dame

    I think the correct phrase, is “it’s a celebration Bitches!”.
    got it, thx for expoundin’ and stuff.
    You should really have a beer, and then go back and look at how that might be perceived.
    “I’m in group A, Bo’s in group B, y’all ova dere in C and stuff”.
    Funny though..
    Bo, I got a g way i freak it (85). coming from flat shoals on 20, i get off at Bouleveard (phuck that raggedy connector), go north, bang a hard left one block BEFORE Freedom Pkwy, and hit the 85N onramp that nobody knows about. 5 minutes of traffic around the bend by the Varsity, and then I’m free like mandela, bounce on 400, off at lenox. Play some Chaka Kahn “Hollywood” real loud and try to get an older lady to ask me “what you know about that music?”.
    Ha!
    Just for knowing that ingenious route–one that avoids Spaghetti Junction–you might be giving Ben some competition.

  • Posted August 19, 2005 5:09 pm 0Likes
    by Lester Spence

    Ralph sets the ball hierarchy like this:
    NBA
    Euroleague
    College
    YMCA
    Pickup
    YMCA has official refs and whatnot. And to the people who play in Y-Style rec leagues, they’re for real. Try to make a game tying free throw with five seconds on the clock in the Y, kid. But yet and still, the Y is only a step above pickup…which means a step above chump play.
    What’s the deal in claiming that writing doesn’t have the same hookup? If Wiley’d ever gotten to the point where he’d share his words for free on a blog–would that make him a blogger?

  • Posted August 19, 2005 5:27 pm 0Likes
    by Lester Spence

    A related question. I was looking at an And One tape. Interview with some cat who was killing fools in the Rucker League. Could’ve gone to the big leagues. He made a decision (this is what he says) to stay at the park league.
    Take this brother, and another one.
    Same skills, same contacts, same network, same drive.
    One stays in the park, the other goes to the leagues and gets a paycheck.
    At the end of the year, are these guys still the same as far as their game?

  • Posted August 20, 2005 2:26 pm 0Likes
    by Rod (The Soul of Rod Garvin)

    For me there is no difference between a writer and blogger, but as you mention, some simply write or blog better than others. And as a blogger I can definitely say all blogs aren’t created equally. I am trying to make money doing this at some point though. This is not a hobby. This is a career in the making.

  • Posted August 24, 2005 3:24 pm 0Likes
    by Kirk

    A bit late on this, but am I the only one that thinks there could be a month’s worse of hilarious Boondocks strips with Riley gettin into a blogwar?

  • Posted August 27, 2005 7:52 am 0Likes
    by Spotahack

    Kris Ex is some punk ass newjack trying to pass himself off as a veteran. His first book with Pras didn’t sell and now his second with 50 proves he’s an asskissing hack who can’t write about the industry without some star cosigning…

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