That’s right…I watched Oprah. But I didn’t just watch it–I TiVo’d it. That’s right…I made sure I saw Oprah.
Why? Because Terry McMillan was gonna be on.
And she was.
And she reaffirmed one of my confusions with the universe–why go on television to look foolish?
As most of you know, Terry’s ex-husband, the one she praised endlessly after they got married, turned out to be a homosexual. She says he played her for the money–though she wasn’t talking that tough talk yesterday and never had to recant those statements–and he says he didn’t realize he was gay until he was deep in the marriage.
I think they’re both wrong on that one. Sorry dude, but your first thought for a business was dog grooming. Bows on poodles. Perhaps buddy was just seriously secure in his masculinity, but that would have been a bit of a warning sign.
But did he play her for the money? That’s a tough call. He may not have known who she was when they met, but he saw her crib when he got to Cali. He know bosslady was paid. But if he was duping her, he would have skipped out long before.
Why? Because she’s out of her gourd. It was obvious from watching her talk about everything that she’s out of her gourd. To go on Oprah to talk about this shows a bit of insanity.
Maybe not insanity, but she’s clearly using this as an opportunity to turn herself into a martyr. Guess she died for women with fragile egos who are more offended that their man is gay than the more salient offense–adultery.
Anyway, they ran through some old interviews she did, and she was rather irate. Pretty funny to see a woman with her hair colored like Ronald McDonald telling Tavis that, “I’m not a homophobe. I’m a Jon-o-phobe.”
Word? Okay.
So she ranted and got lots of applause from the back row at various points. I don’t see why.
Anyway, buddy boy came on next. Now I don’t know when he started dressing like he does, but there’s no doubt now that he’s gay. The shaped eyebrows and the whole nine…didn’t take a rocket scientist to see it now. Can anyone confirm when he started sporting gear like this? That would really help solve the mystery on this one.
After a bit more back and forth–and her giving a lot of funny looks, the kinds kids try to give on the sly when they’re in uncomfortable situations–they brought a therapist on to talk to them.
That’s when I turned the television off.
What therapy is needed here? He cheated on her. She told him to get his shit and bounce.
Sure, there are residuals from this, but the homophobia of all of this is just so hard for me to deal with. The problem that she has is that he left her for men, not because he left her. The adultery angle seems to matter not (perhaps because of the desperation she may have entered this marriage with).
She sat up talking about how he may have risked her life because he was sleeping with men. That makes sense. After all, women don’t have any diseases. Jesus, has anyone ever heard of a woman with HIV????
Plummer gets some points from me, though. He stepped into the lion’s den, which I wouldn’t have done. He didn’t get booed or anything, but he was definitely on enemy ground. He didn’t make himself look bad. Terry didn’t either, but that’ll only hold if you’re not that bright. Some of her examples and logic were so faulty that it was ridiculous.
An example–the dude said he was gay but that he hadn’t dealt with any men by the time she told her. She said she didn’t believe it.
“That’s like someone saying their an alcoholic before taking a drink.”
But later in the show, Oprah asked buddy how he didn’t realize he was gay until he was 20 because other gay people she knows could pinpoint their realization of homosexuality to childhood. Well, it’s safe to assume those kids weren’t out there having gay sex, isn’t it?
So how those folks know they were drunks if they hadn’t taken a drink?
I would have liked more Springer stuff, but I hate how she’s trying to turn herself into a victim. This just exacerbates this bizarre “down low” phenomenon and makes life hard for a lot of people. She got cheated on. That’s bad biz, but that’s not unique.
But this is something all of us have been guikty of in the aftermath of a failed relationship–tying this to ego. And that’s all it can be. If this didn’t have to do with ego, then adultery would have been the most salient point heard in her pain.
But it’s not.
And that’s all I have to say about that.

22 Comments
by Kirk
Nothing more to say on it. Absolutely right across the board.
by Kirk
Nothing more to say on it. Absolutely right across the board.
by ALove
Can’t say I was beating down the door to see that one, but until this I always imagined Terry McMillan to be a classy woman. The way I see it, this has been splashed all over our collective consciousness for some time now. There was really no need for her to get on Oprah and relive it. Worse, no need to get dude out there with you to go over what should now be reserved for private healing time. Oh, and I don’t know whether one could say he was gay from jump, but I remember when I first saw a picture of him. I suspected that he was doing something vaguely cosmetic to his eyebrows; they were better looking than mine. That may have been a good sign for her that all was not as it should have been.
What made you think she was “classy,” whatever that means? What about Waiting to Exhale had anything to do with “class?”
by ALove
Can’t say I was beating down the door to see that one, but until this I always imagined Terry McMillan to be a classy woman. The way I see it, this has been splashed all over our collective consciousness for some time now. There was really no need for her to get on Oprah and relive it. Worse, no need to get dude out there with you to go over what should now be reserved for private healing time. Oh, and I don’t know whether one could say he was gay from jump, but I remember when I first saw a picture of him. I suspected that he was doing something vaguely cosmetic to his eyebrows; they were better looking than mine. That may have been a good sign for her that all was not as it should have been.
What made you think she was “classy,” whatever that means? What about Waiting to Exhale had anything to do with “class?”
by Tiffany
I don’t know..I never got the impression that she was a homophobe. She was mad as hell-and rightfully so that her husband lied to her. Yeah, it ain’t the greatest feeling in the world to know that your husband is gay, but the fact that he lied about it for two years (or more if you ask me) AND cheated on her (which he lied about too) would be enough to make me get postal. So yeah she has a right to be mad that the man she married is GAY and that in and of itself don’t make her crazy or a homophobe (although I do agree that she is nutty in general.) (She did talk about how she was equally hurt both by the cheating and the homosexualtity.)
I think another point that needs to be brought up is that she is CLEARLY not over this man and he is, in typical hustler fashion, trying to get in where he can fit in. Am I excusing her behavior-nope? In my book, you don’t take a bath and cuddle overnight with your gay ex-husband who has tried to sue ya. I mean, this man actually thought he was entitled to her money. So, her actions weren’t too bright at-all. But, it was obvious to anyone who watched that she was still in love with him and the fantasy that he helped her create. And this man, who spent so long trying to hide what he was, still can’t tell the truth or give straight answers about things that everyone already knows. Case in point: Oprah asked him if he cheated on her. Jonathan: “Never did anything to endanger Terri’s health”. “Oprah: Didn’t ask you that-did you cheat?” So after some time, he finally admits it and then says he had to figure out if he was gay or not. So, according to him, they’re taking ‘baby-steps’ towards a new–whatever it is they’re doing. That to me sounds like a hustler trying to slide back into the game.
I think that the problem with your partner being gay is not as much about ego but somebody you love lying about who they fundamentally are. Is Terri really trying to be a victim-not sure about that. Let’s check out her bank account after her book tour and see… 🙂
Is she trying to be a victim? What other good reason does she have to bring this stuff on television? Perhaps to sella book, but there’s gotta be better ways to get attention than discussing how your man left you. Gotta be.
by Tiffany
I don’t know..I never got the impression that she was a homophobe. She was mad as hell-and rightfully so that her husband lied to her. Yeah, it ain’t the greatest feeling in the world to know that your husband is gay, but the fact that he lied about it for two years (or more if you ask me) AND cheated on her (which he lied about too) would be enough to make me get postal. So yeah she has a right to be mad that the man she married is GAY and that in and of itself don’t make her crazy or a homophobe (although I do agree that she is nutty in general.) (She did talk about how she was equally hurt both by the cheating and the homosexualtity.)
I think another point that needs to be brought up is that she is CLEARLY not over this man and he is, in typical hustler fashion, trying to get in where he can fit in. Am I excusing her behavior-nope? In my book, you don’t take a bath and cuddle overnight with your gay ex-husband who has tried to sue ya. I mean, this man actually thought he was entitled to her money. So, her actions weren’t too bright at-all. But, it was obvious to anyone who watched that she was still in love with him and the fantasy that he helped her create. And this man, who spent so long trying to hide what he was, still can’t tell the truth or give straight answers about things that everyone already knows. Case in point: Oprah asked him if he cheated on her. Jonathan: “Never did anything to endanger Terri’s health”. “Oprah: Didn’t ask you that-did you cheat?” So after some time, he finally admits it and then says he had to figure out if he was gay or not. So, according to him, they’re taking ‘baby-steps’ towards a new–whatever it is they’re doing. That to me sounds like a hustler trying to slide back into the game.
I think that the problem with your partner being gay is not as much about ego but somebody you love lying about who they fundamentally are. Is Terri really trying to be a victim-not sure about that. Let’s check out her bank account after her book tour and see… 🙂
Is she trying to be a victim? What other good reason does she have to bring this stuff on television? Perhaps to sella book, but there’s gotta be better ways to get attention than discussing how your man left you. Gotta be.
by Lord Amaru
Bo…truer words…
by Lord Amaru
Bo…truer words…
by Rodprime
Bo
Given that Mr. Plummer comes from Jamaica, there are clear incentives—for example, immolation—that make it prudent for him not to delve deeply into the nature of his sexuality.
I’m sure that Terry feels a bit of chagrin. Getting her groove back wasn’t as easy as initially advertised. She put herself out there. This gives her set of haters vindication.
I don’t think a public forum is a place to air out the dirty laundry…unless another novel is forthcoming. Publishers beware.
Yeah, I ache for that cat if he’s gotta go back to Jamaica. Nothing good can result from that. And maybe Terry’s gonna quote Ghostface Killah–“I put a lotta money on it. Fuck it, I’m hatin’!”
by Rodprime
Bo
Given that Mr. Plummer comes from Jamaica, there are clear incentives—for example, immolation—that make it prudent for him not to delve deeply into the nature of his sexuality.
I’m sure that Terry feels a bit of chagrin. Getting her groove back wasn’t as easy as initially advertised. She put herself out there. This gives her set of haters vindication.
I don’t think a public forum is a place to air out the dirty laundry…unless another novel is forthcoming. Publishers beware.
Yeah, I ache for that cat if he’s gotta go back to Jamaica. Nothing good can result from that. And maybe Terry’s gonna quote Ghostface Killah–“I put a lotta money on it. Fuck it, I’m hatin’!”
by big grip
I must sheepishly admit that I too watched the TMac/Jon trainwreck on Oprah.
Why did Oprah allow her show to be used as a vehicle for this foolishness?
No new ground was covered!!
Oprah seems to have this obsession with this DL phenomenon. She seems so “mystified” by the proposition. This has never happened before in the annals of history. Where are all of these DL guys coming from?
Now Bo, you and I both know that she only needs to go that institution over on Westview Drive (that I attended, and she can find several DL brothers in their developmental stage.
Why doesn’t she just invite some of these DL “cubs” on her show to satisfy her curiosity once and for all?
by big grip
I must sheepishly admit that I too watched the TMac/Jon trainwreck on Oprah.
Why did Oprah allow her show to be used as a vehicle for this foolishness?
No new ground was covered!!
Oprah seems to have this obsession with this DL phenomenon. She seems so “mystified” by the proposition. This has never happened before in the annals of history. Where are all of these DL guys coming from?
Now Bo, you and I both know that she only needs to go that institution over on Westview Drive (that I attended, and she can find several DL brothers in their developmental stage.
Why doesn’t she just invite some of these DL “cubs” on her show to satisfy her curiosity once and for all?
by Kirk
Grip, maybe Oprah’s obsession with the DL phenomenon has something to do with Steadman?
by Kirk
Grip, maybe Oprah’s obsession with the DL phenomenon has something to do with Steadman?
by ladyb
Ooo- Kirk. Nice link! I like it!
Personally, I’m with Bomani 100% on this one – adultery is adultery is adultery!!! But… I’d only like to add one other comment i’ve heard women say: “if he cheats on me with a woman, I at least know that there is something I can work on – like weight, paying attention, etc. but if he cheats with a man, how can I compete?” (insert scooby doo like confusion here)
by ladyb
Ooo- Kirk. Nice link! I like it!
Personally, I’m with Bomani 100% on this one – adultery is adultery is adultery!!! But… I’d only like to add one other comment i’ve heard women say: “if he cheats on me with a woman, I at least know that there is something I can work on – like weight, paying attention, etc. but if he cheats with a man, how can I compete?” (insert scooby doo like confusion here)
by Left Coast Vic
In reading the “alcoholic” comparison, it makes me realize that we have a LONG way to go in really understanding homosexuality. I mean come on, alcoholism is a disease. Unless we think being gay is a disease too the analogy just doesnt hold up.
We really got this backasswards.
by Left Coast Vic
In reading the “alcoholic” comparison, it makes me realize that we have a LONG way to go in really understanding homosexuality. I mean come on, alcoholism is a disease. Unless we think being gay is a disease too the analogy just doesnt hold up.
We really got this backasswards.
by ronnie brown
okay, i’ll ask it…How do we UNDERSTAND homosexuality?
by ronnie brown
okay, i’ll ask it…How do we UNDERSTAND homosexuality?
by Emilia Liz
A few comments on this story. First of all, whether Mr. Plummer is gay or not, she should have questioned why a twenty-year-old man from a poor country and a poor family would want to marry a woman twice his age. I remember a female friend of mine (Canadian) went to Cuba and was told by men there how “beautiful” she was (attractive she was; “beautiful” might be a bit strong a word for her). She realized though that most of them were at best after a roll in the hay and at worst after an immigration visa.
Second, the fact that Plummer went into dog grooming would be a HUGE red flag in terms of his sexuality. Who is the most famous dog groomer right now? Greg Louganis. We all know about him. So I think Plummer was fooling herself both on why he wanted to come to America and about his sexuality.
by Emilia Liz
A few comments on this story. First of all, whether Mr. Plummer is gay or not, she should have questioned why a twenty-year-old man from a poor country and a poor family would want to marry a woman twice his age. I remember a female friend of mine (Canadian) went to Cuba and was told by men there how “beautiful” she was (attractive she was; “beautiful” might be a bit strong a word for her). She realized though that most of them were at best after a roll in the hay and at worst after an immigration visa.
Second, the fact that Plummer went into dog grooming would be a HUGE red flag in terms of his sexuality. Who is the most famous dog groomer right now? Greg Louganis. We all know about him. So I think Plummer was fooling herself both on why he wanted to come to America and about his sexuality.