…skyscrapers and everythang.
Been here since Monday hanging out with my fiancee. This is an interesting place. I don’t have the vehement distaste for New York that I had in college, which was really just a vehement distaste for most of the folks at Clark from New York. You know the ones I’m talking about…the ones that seemed to make themselves feel better by talking about how backwards Southerners were.
After this week, I laugh at the thought of hearing them say that stuff. See, this is the first time I’ve been here without having to do anything work related. Been working, but that wasn’t the purpose of the trip. That allowed me the chance to just hang around this piece and observe some things. Here are a few points I’d like to make.
1. I’ve seen more Jheri curls here than I’ve seen in four years in Durham. Granted, there are a lot more people here, but the proportion of curl wearers is still higher in NY than NC.
And they got the nerve to talk about us.
2. I saw a gorgeous baby girl, about six months old, with a mohawk.
And they got the nerve to talk about us.
3. Saw a woman in a chicken and waffle joint in Harlem with hair of orange, blond, brown AND white.
And they got the nerve to talk about us.
4. Was at the drug store a couple of days ago. An older woman, about 55, was on the phone. Outta nowhere she says “you shoulda pistol-whipped the muthafucka!” Loud enough for everyone to hear. Then you hear, “you shoulda blown the muthafucka’s head off!”
An employee tried to tell her to calm down because there were kids in the store. She looked around–btw, she had something closely resembling a curl–then said “where.”
Goes back to her conversation. “I’m talking like this cuz some sucka is minding my business and not his.” Then it got loud. Then she goes back to the phone conversation.
“He ain’t open the door when I came. He knows I would do him. We don’t follow this new world order. We make our own world order.” Whatever that meant.
And y’all got they got the nerve to talk about us.
5. Unrelated to the theme, here’s a funny. My fiancee went to get her hair braided. ‘Twas an African-owned establishment, and they had a lot of ladies in there braiding. They also had an interesting marketing team. That team was three or four women, dressed fully in traditional African dresses and headwraps, banging on the window at every woman that walked past, trying to get them to come in and get braided. Even white women got the treatment.
Now, who walks down the street feelin good and minding her own and things, “man, I sure would like to sit in this chair for hours and have my hair braided. Thanks so much for scaring me into remembering that’s what I really wanted to do”? These ladies were even running down the street to get people in the shop.
Oh well, keep the theme…and they got the nerve to talk about us.
For the next stop in my sociological tour of things north of where I live, we’re going to a wedding in Baltimore this weekend. Congrats to my man. Just make sure them li’l hoppers don’t come messin’ with me.

16 Comments
by ETS
I actually think the babies/kids with mohawks is cool.
My freshman year I was one of those arrogant big city types who somewhat unconsciously yet consistently dissed the South. I’m not from New York, nor did I go to Clark (my brother did), but forgive us. We were young and dumb.
*hangs head*
I really didn’t mean any harm. I was just being observant. Some things in the south, north, east and west need to be called out.
by Stephanie E.
As far as the Jheri curls go, man I don’t know where you were, but I’m in this piece everyday, and have not seen a one.
What’s wrong with a mohawk wearing baby?
I have many funny stories to relate re: African braid spots.
There is no place on earth like this place. No place funnier, sadder, hotter, stinkier than this place (at least not in my experience). You have to admit though that no matter how many alleged Jheri curls you saw, or crazy ass looking black folk (or just folk in general, and by no means have we cornered the market on that), there is an undeniable attraction to the place. Keep coming back.
by Jason
It’s the only place on earth where you can say “I’ve seen it all” and still be surprised. I have a love/hate relationship with the Five Boroughs, but it’s my hometown. I’ve been to a few places and I’ve always been amazed how much NYC folks are hated. Even though I’m from NYC and went to college in the Boston area, I felt the same way about my own ‘peoples’. Yet, those are the folks in college that didn’t really want to leave New York, so they stick with each other and talk shit (unless it’s time to go to the club).
Think of this, though. So many people never EVER leave their home area, but have opinions on the rest of the world. New York just happens to be the largest example of this. Now, I’ve never been deep in the South to have an opinion, but I tend to believe that we are much more similar than different. That said, I had to be good to not have to drive all over the place (even if the subways don’t have the most desirable smells).
by Dave
I don’t think northerners are hated in the south as much as is portrayed. I’m from NC and I know plenty of folks from up north and they’re all fine people. It’s just that before a northerner moves down here they are apparently given a checklist of things that they must complain about upon arrival and after the 5,000th hearing, we get a little defensive. I’ve never been given a copy of the checklist but I know what’s on it.
1. Complain about the drivers. They’re all idiots.
2. Complain that everything closes too early. Because apparently chicken parmigiana tastes better at midnight.
3. The pizza just doesn’t compare. I don’t know what’s so great about bigger toppings but one day I’ll travel to NYC and find out.
4. Make at least one Andy Griffith reference a day. Saying you can’t believe you moved to Mayberry is really original and funny.
5. Comment on the racism. I’ve never understood this one. I know that racism exists but I also know that it is just as prevalent in all parts of the country. And I’ll never understand the hatred New Yorkers seem to hold towards Jews.
That’s the main list. Some of these will differ slightly from state to state. For example, if you are from Maine you MUST remind everyone that the autumn leaves turn much brighter in Maine than anywhere else as if we give a crap. Once again, we don’t hate you. We just get a little sick of hearing about how inferior our homes are.
Oh, and barbeque is a noun, not a verb.
by Rex
I had a few Yanks and Joisey people in my college classes at OU (Okla). They were insufferable. At the beginning of every fall semester one of them would tell the SAME story over and over of how he “laughs” when he flies in and sees the OKC skyline. He’d say, “You need to take the ‘City’ off the end of that name!”
by eauhellzgnaw
I had an oh-so pleasant New York teenager tell me that Chicago and San Fran are O.K. cities, but they try too hard to be like NY because they have Chinatowns.
I won’t front, though. Gotta give NY props for the hours. I can’t stand cities that shut down early.
by Sean
Tough town! On one of my last visits to NYC I broke my ankle stepping off a curb (it was a 2 1/2-star, drink-aided pratfall). You’re affianced? Congrats!
p.s. In a craven effort to drive up my own blog traffic, I recommend this, in particular the post slugged “Chongalicous” …
by Stephanie E.
To Dave: yes, chicken parm. tastes better at midnight, and is unbelievable at 3 am
The pizza thing – it has nothing to do with the toppings (most of us up this way will take a good cheese slice over one with toppings any day) – it’s the size and shape of the slice, the consistency of the sauce, and the ratio of cheese to sauce, and the crust – not too crunchy, not too doughy, firm but still yielding and easy to eat
by Left Coast Vic
Bill Maher had a really funny joke about New Yorkers and their pizza. It was something to the effect of:
“I am tired of hearing New Yorkers complain that California has no good pizza. Yeah we may not have ‘NY’ quality pizza, but thats because after we pay rent we have more money in our pockets to eat things other than pizza.”
by dameSTAtus
Yeah bo, I had the same auc experience.
Always felt like the NY kids were more “NY” than they were at home. Tims in the ATL Summer? I’ll beat your ass (figuratively speaking of course).
I will give them this, there “tricking” game was up to par out the gate, while us cali dudes weren’t bagging the right chicks consistently, simply because we thought the whole “captain save a ho” song/theme/ethos/m.o. was a dirct order from Christ..
Pretty well played out stereotypes:
– Cali dudes, hard on a chick, tight on their pockets. Probably 1/5th of AUC chicks fell way to hard for a stingy ass cali dude (like me!)
-Ny (and ny acting types.. which sometimes are from places as far and scattered as Flint, MI and Rhode Island): Cupcaking on a chick, hating on cali dudes for pulling chicks w/ all game and no lunch money.
Church!
Great comment. and Great insight Steph…
by dameSTAtus
oh, but my whole post was motivated by the fact that one of my true best friends (as in bought the most expensive baby shower gift, by miles), is a harlem dude. I’m back in the bay now, and these backstabbing, no moral having, no father-type schooled, trigger happy, fist-shy COWARDS make me sick.
Real people do real things, and they are SPARSELY scattered all over the map.
by Darren
You are so right. Went to school in Virginia and them New York cats used to make anyone else feel like they were country and slower than NYC cats. NY is tight. Love the city but i’m a west coast kid where the women are clueless sometimes. Anyway living in Jersey has shown me that some of these folk out here are not that sophisticated and NY can’t talk ish like that.
by Jen
I went to school in somewhat upstate NY and had my fill of “the City” and its inhabitants. Being from Cleveland, I averaged 1 Cleveland joke a day for 3 years. One of my roomates’ father told me I would become a better parson because I was living with a girl from the Bronx (and a stupid one at that, but I digress). My last year there, when some clown came at me with Cleveland hate, I would say, ” Yeah whatever. you don’t like my city? Great. Never go there. We don’t want you to visit. Ever.” For some reason, that seemed to shut them up.
That said, some of my best friends come from NYC. I love visiting the city. Something hilarious is always happening – 2 middle-aged white guys trying to beat each other to a pay phone and end up in a fistfight. 2 bums bonking each other on the head with 2×4’s in the village. Getting the best, baddest haircut of my life there. Hearing all about about some black guy making a movie in Brooklyn a year before ‘She’s Got to Have It’ came out because my boyfriend lived down the street from Spike Lee. Ah, so many stories & good times.
PS, dameSTAtus, ….saywha…?
by EnlightenedOne
Bo,
Sounds like you dined at the famous Harlem eatery… “Amy Ruth’s” chicken & waffle spot in Harlem? Right or Wrong? If so I hope you enjoyed the Fried Honey Dipped Chicken with a nice cold glass of Purple or Red Kool-Aid!
My brother (CAU 2003) lived not too far from there in Spanish Harlem, and I used to love going there on Sundays to eat.
NYC is one of my favorite cities to visit, great culture, nightlife and interesting n’hoods and people. (I really miss him staying there now since he has relocated to Memphis).
Just came back from a 6 day jaunt in Cali and Vegas and being in Vegas made me miss the realness of NYC. Don’t get me wrong the nightlife was poppin but the authenticity was missing form the equation. Gotta take the good with the bad I guess…
by dameSTAtus
Jen, not sure what “say wha…” was in regard to.
Perhaps it was the “sparsely” line.. if so, I was just saying there are great/trustworthy/stand-up people scattered all over the us (and globe). By chance (but not coincidence), a lot of them/us seem to congregate here at bomanijones.com. that’s all.
Or if it was about “tricking”, per se, I was implying that young men are raised to be very cheap, and hence not very chilvarous (sp?) on the west coast. It seemed that at a younger age, my NY/”up top” counterparts understood the concept of actually taking a woman out at an earlier age than I. It was a compliment, just stated in a backwards way. I.e: showing my growth in understanding over the years (18 then, vs. 28 years old now.)
by Jen
Hey dameSTAtus-
I was just goofing ya. The tricking comment did take me a few reads to understand, but I’m an old fogie. Will be up your way in SF in a day or so. Now that’s a city I loved at first sight. Even got married out there.